Special Thread: Yanayojiri Mgogoro wa Ukraine na Urusi. Nini chanzo na hatma ya mzozo?

kp kipanya44 · Nov 17, 2022

1954 said:
Ni wazi wewe ni mchanga mno katika kujenga hoja, kuelewa issues, kuelewa how the international system functiion and how actors in international relations behave...You don't know anything...wewe baki kuandika: kukaza shingo, superpower wa mchongo, fashisti Putin ...huwezi kuendelea zaidi ya hapo...una analytical capacity..

Kwanza inabidi utambue kwamba siwezi kupoteza muda na kuchosha akili yangu kujibizana kwa hoja makini na nyinyi mahayawani...,nyie dawa yenu ni kujibiwa tu kipumbavu kulingana na upumbavu wenu...,Kwa hiyo umeandika kiingereza Ili uonekane mbobezi ,sio?
Ukweli ni kwamba urusi hakuna chochote alichoambulia huko Ukraine.., Kama ni kujiunga na NATO, ukraine tayari katuma maombi ya kujiunga na NATO.., Finland na Sweden tayari zimeshatuma maombi ya kujiunga na NATO...,Ile mikwara ya referendum tayari imegonga mwamba

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Shujaa Mwendazake · Nov 17, 2022

kina kirefu said:
unazungumza Kama vile unatembea na FILe la ukaine

Mkuu ongelea US , Nato, Russia na China nikuelewe.

Talking about Ukraine Millitarily is nonsense!!!!

Shujaa Mwendazake · Nov 17, 2022

Liwagu said:
Hahaa Mkuu are you serious??.
Unasema Zele angejua asinge ingia vitani,really??
Are you serious??
Ulitaka Zele afanyeje baada ya kuvamiwa.

Ulitaka afanyeje?, asarende amkabidhi Putini nchi?.

Comeon dude.

Mi sio mshabiki wa Zele wala Putin ila naona alicho fanya Zele hata Mimi ningefanya, jamaa anajaribu kupambania nchi yake.

Najua sababu za Putini kumvamia Zele lakini hazitoshi kumfanya Zele ajikabidhi kwa urusi.
Maamuzi ya Zele ni yakishujaa kwasababu Anajua Ukraine ni nchi huru na inamaamuziyake kama nchi.

Ukiona nchi nyingine inakupangia chakufanya kwa faidayake ukikubali maana yake huna nchi, then anaekupangia akikulazimisha ufanye anavyo taka nini kina fuata, Just fight, right?.

Ungekuwa wewe Zele ungefanyaje.

Ningekuwa mimi Zele ningeheshimu Minsk agreement .

Shujaa Mwendazake · Nov 17, 2022

startergear said:
Unataka reality gani!? Wakati unaona mwaka unaisha Vita bado haijaisha...

Wewe kwa utaalamu wako Vita kati ya taifa na taifa inaisha Miaka mingapi?

Shujaa Mwendazake · Nov 17, 2022

4by94 said:
hutak kuamin unachokiona , alifuata nn kiev ? na kwann anashambulia nchi nzima?

Ametengeneza mgogoro ambao ukija kuisha Minsk agreement itaheshimiwa na Nato na vitaifa vidogo nje ya nato

Shujaa Mwendazake · Nov 17, 2022

4by94 said:
na ndio maana NATO wanawapokea tu majiran wa URUSI , Urusi kama ya kufikiria vipengelee vinavyomlinda bas ajitahidi pia kutovunja vipengelee vinavyowalinda majiran zake

Nani kaanza kuvunja Minsk agreement

Shujaa Mwendazake · Nov 17, 2022

Messenger RNA said:
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Kwanini sasa walijimegea Crimea? na bado wakanogewa wakataka Ukraine yote,kama sio kufurushwa tu nchi yote ingekuwa imepiga kura feki kujiunga na urusi.

Crimea ni kama Taiwan mkuu

one wisow · Nov 17, 2022

Liwagu said:
Hahaa Mkuu are you serious??.
Unasema Zele angejua asinge ingia vitani,really??
Are you serious??
Ulitaka Zele afanyeje baada ya kuvamiwa.

Ulitaka afanyeje?, asarende amkabidhi Putini nchi?.

Comeon dude.

Mi sio mshabiki wa Zele wala Putin ila naona alicho fanya Zele hata Mimi ningefanya, jamaa anajaribu kupambania nchi yake.

Najua sababu za Putini kumvamia Zele lakini hazitoshi kumfanya Zele ajikabidhi kwa urusi.
Maamuzi ya Zele ni yakishujaa kwasababu Anajua Ukraine ni nchi huru na inamaamuziyake kama nchi.

Ukiona nchi nyingine inakupangia chakufanya kwa faidayake ukikubali maana yake huna nchi, then anaekupangia akikulazimisha ufanye anavyo taka nini kina fuata, Just fight, right?.

Ungekuwa wewe Zele ungefanyaje.

Zele alipewa options na Putin, aseme hatojiunga Nato au akaubali vita. So he chose war. Alijua NATO watampa uwanachama Kwa kuwa anapigana na adui Yao .shenzi zake kaishia majivu na madeniii

Masokwe · Nov 17, 2022

Wakubwa wa dunia weshapanga yote haya, wanajua nini wanafanya.
Hata hio vita ni kiini macho tuu

Google chrome · Nov 17, 2022

Donnie Charlie said:
The Ukrainian Army on Wednesday put the number of Russian servicemen killed in fighting over the past 24 hours at more than 600 and said that to date more than 82,700 Russian soldiers have died since the start of the invasion.

Kuna watu wanaamini hizi data? inakuingia akilini Ukraine kutoa idadi ya wanajeshi wa Russia wanaokufa alafu haitoi idadi ya wanajeshi wake wanaokufa?

Bome-e · Nov 17, 2022

T14 Armata said:
Kwahiyo Urusi mmeshindwa Ukraine mnataka misaada wa NATOView attachment 2418974

Mimi nimesema Ukraine kapiga Poland,Je article za NATO ziko Kwa ajili ya Russia tu?

Bome-e · Nov 17, 2022

T14 Armata said:
Marekani iliua 4 star General. Iran ikafyatua makombora kushangilia na bado kwenye mazishi watu wakafa. Tofauti ni akili

Ndio nimesema Iran alijibu Kwa kulipua Kambi ya kijeshi ya US!Ni Hilo tu!

Liwagu · Nov 17, 2022

Shujaa Mwendazake said:
Ningekuwa mimi Zele ningeheshimu Minsk agreement .

Sawa lakini makubaliano sio dini mkuu,kunakipindi ungeamua kufanya mabadiliko na usingependa kuona Kuna inchi inakuzuiya kufanya maamuziyako.

uchungu · Nov 17, 2022

Bome-e said:
Mimi nimesema Ukraine kapiga Poland,Je article za NATO ziko Kwa ajili ya Russia tu?

[emoji23] ubaloz wa germany hapo kyiv ulishapigwa na wakaufyata, hapo hata ikipigwa UK wataufyata hivyo hivyo, jamaa anajua weakness ya hao OTAN na atacheza nao segere mpaka mwisho

FUSO · Nov 17, 2022

Mrusi so far kashashika adabu kwamba next time hatavamia taifa lingine kichwa kichwa !! na sasa ataingia kwenye mazungumzo ya amani bila masharti yoyote mezani kitu ambacho ni ushindi kwa Ukraine.

Hakuna wa kumzuia Ukraine kujiunga na NATO, hata kama itachukua miaka lakini kama wao wanataka Putin ni nani ?

lee Vladimir cleef · Nov 17, 2022

Bome-e said:
Ndio nimesema Iran alijibu Kwa kulipua Kambi ya kijeshi ya US!Ni Hilo tu!

Labda yeye huyo unaemjibu,alitaka na Iran imtafute General wa USA imuue.
Hta hivyo kitendo ilichokifanya USA kumvizia na kumuua Gen wa Iran Tena akiwa Hana taarifa kama anatakiwa kuuawa ,ni kitendo Cha uoga na Cha kigaidi Cha USA.

Majibu ya Iran yalikua ni majibu dhahili ya kijeshi yasio ya kiuoga, kuvizia na sio ya kigaidi

ndammu · Nov 17, 2022

Bome-e said:
Sasa kwanini na NATO wasimsingizie Ili wapate sababu ya kumvamia?Walifanya hivyo Kwa Iraq,akasingiziwa kuwa ana nuclear na akavamiwa!

Japo mda mwengine ni ushabiki lakni tupunguzeni mahaba.

Sasa hajafanya na uthibitisho wa uchunguzi umebaini hawakuhusika sasa waingie nato wampige urusi kwa sababu ipi?

Tupo ya 2022.

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ndammu · Nov 17, 2022

T14 Armata said:
Marekani kaiweza USSR aje ashindwe Russia? Taifa lililoanzishwa 1991 kama masalia ndio unataka lishindane na Marekani?

Yani Marekani itishwe na nchi iliyowahi tawaliwa na marais watatu tu tangu ianzishwe? Come on futa hiyo njaa kichwani

Watakwambia alipigana Libya miaka 20,sijui Japan na kwengineko akakimbia ndio hoja zao hizo. Yaani wakitoa hoja hizo ndio points zao kuu.

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ndammu · Nov 17, 2022

mtarimbo said:
Kwa hiyo marekani ya Vietnam unaifananisha na Nyie vilaza.Miaka kumi US kapigana Vietnam hajapoteza personel weng kama mandonga aliopoteza kwa miez 8.
Hata siku moja usilinganishe US ya miaka ile na ya sasa.mmepigwa mkubali mmepigwa siyo kuleta visingizio na kuanza kufanya hesabu za mlinganyo

Wakitoa hoja hizo hawazisoki hahahaaa.

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Axel Lloyd · Nov 17, 2022

uchungu said:
[emoji23] ubaloz wa germany hapo kyiv ulishapigwa na wakaufyata, hapo hata ikipigwa UK wataufyata hivyo hivyo, jamaa anajua weakness ya hao OTAN na atacheza nao segere mpaka mwisho

Miscalculation kwenye vita ni kitu ambacho hakiepukiki,hata Marekani ilishawahi kupiga Bomu ubalozi wa china kwa bahati mbaya wakati wa Vita kule Yugoslavia na kuua waandishi wa habari watatu, hakuna kilichotokea.
Vita sio km mieleka kwamba Mtu amekuchokoza tu bhas tayari usharusha ngumi

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