Special Thread: Yanayojiri Mgogoro wa Ukraine na Urusi. Nini chanzo na hatma ya mzozo?

jameshyela · Mar 11, 2023

MOTOCHINI said:
Kile kichapo cha Juzi Ni Habari tosha kwa Wale Fuata upepo kujua Urusi Inao uwezo wa Kumuua Zele Kama Kuku tu
Yaank Ikiamua Hakuna wakumlinda Labda Mungu pekee Aamue Vinginevyo na Sio Mtu/Mwanadamu au Taifa Fulani.
Kile Kisago cha Juzi Hakijawahi tokea Mpaka sasa NATO Wamechanganyikiwa

Yaani air defence zilipigwa Kama hazipo

jameshyela · Mar 11, 2023

Nkuba25 said:
Wakuu,

Kwenye pita pita zangu leo, nimejifunza kuhusu, avangard and kinzhal hypersonic weapons.

Hivi ni hypersonic missiles mbili tofauti kabisa:

The Avangard is a Russian hypersonic glide vehicle that can be carried as a MIRV payload by the UR-100UTTKh, R-36M2 and RS-28 Sarmat heavy ICBMs. It can deliver both nuclear and conventional payloads

The Kh-47M2 Kinzhal (in Russian: Х-47М2 Кинжал, "Dagger", NATO reporting name Killjoy) is a Russian nuclear-capable hypersonic air-launched ballistic missile.

Wanasema kwamba jana huko Ukraine, iliyotumika kuwapiga ni Kinzhal hypersonic missiles. Na zilikuwa 6 tu. Zingine ni normal missiles.

Sasa unaweza kuelewa ni kwa nini zilitumika hizo special Kinzhal - ofcoz ni kwa sababu ya commanding centers za NATO.

Hizi Kinzhal missiles ndizo hazifati normal trajectory za physics.

Unasemaje wewe,

Labani og · Mar 11, 2023

Naiona failure of UN kama ilivyotokea miaka ya zamani Baada yakufeli Kwa league of nations

Binafsi namuonea huruma yule Mzee UN secretary Bora angestaafu mapema

Sigonella Island · Mar 11, 2023

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Boss Putin akitengewa kidali cha NATO na US akitafune na Kamanda wa Wagner [emoji1787][emoji1787][emoji1787][emoji1787][emoji1787]

Sigonella Island · Mar 11, 2023

Labani og said:
Naiona failure of UN kama ilivyotokea miaka ya zamani Baada yakufeli Kwa league of nations

Binafsi namuonea huruma yule Mzee UN secretary Bora angestaafu mapema

Hana sauti yupo Kama boya tu amezoea kutoa maelekezo kwa Nchi za Afrika

Sigonella Island · Mar 11, 2023

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To put things in context, Russia has over 12,500 tanks ready for military operations.
#StandWithRussia[emoji635]

INSIDER MAN · Mar 11, 2023

[emoji1166]Mexico applied to join BRICS

BRICS surpasses G7 in global GDP

INSIDER MAN · Mar 11, 2023

Labani og said:
Naiona failure of UN kama ilivyotokea miaka ya zamani Baada yakufeli Kwa league of nations

Binafsi namuonea huruma yule Mzee UN secretary Bora angestaafu mapema

Mzee hana sauti kabisa[emoji23][emoji23]. UN ni kichaka cha US kupitisha Agenda zake

Extrovert · Mar 11, 2023

Meckyrich said:
[emoji1166]Mexico applied to join BRICS

BRICS surpasses G7 in global GDPView attachment 2546632

Watazidi kuja tu wengi sana huu ni mwanzo tu 🤣🤣🤣

Extrovert · Mar 11, 2023

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green rajab said:
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To put things in context, Russia has over 12,500 tanks ready for military operations.
#StandWithRussia[emoji635]View attachment 2546631

Hio inaitwa hatari kwenye lango 🤣🤣🤣

Labani og · Mar 11, 2023

Wiki hii mkorea naye kakiwasha

Kasema "akiwa anatest makombora yake Kwani hapangiwi ......kitendo Cha marekani au nchi yoyote ikijaribu kuyadungua ......basi atakuwa katangaza vita na kiduku"

Nikama wale ndugu zangu wa huko lake zone.....anaingia kibanda umiza kucheki mech ....huku kawasha redio
Then "anasema .......yeyote atakaye nigusa / kuzima redio anakula nshale

Dunia must have balance of power ....sio Kila kitu kiamuliwe na mmoja

Bwana Utam · Mar 11, 2023

Nkuba25 said:
Mkuu,

Hivi safari za PM wa UK nazo zinakuwaje ni habari ya Ukraine.

Ngoja nieke kituoa hapa

Hawana habari sasa wangefanyaje BOSS

Kakijana · Mar 11, 2023

green rajab said:
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SankaraBoukaka · Mar 11, 2023

Nyamasele said:
Basi unatakiwa ujue, ukubwa wa dunia hautafutwi kwa njia ya vita, America hawakuipata kwa kumvamia Mexican, Haiti, Canada na majirani wengine

Mrusi alitakiwa asawazishe mahusiano yawe mazuri, kirafiki na yenye kuaminiana na majirani zake, lakini hakuna jirani mwenye mahusiano mema na Urusi apart from Belarus na Chechnya ambao ni mateka wa warusi kiuhalisia

Hitler alitaka ukubwa wa dunia ila sidhani kama aliupata, ukubwa wa dunia ina mambo mengi na siyo vita, nafasi aliyonayo USA ni kubwa sana na mara nyingi anatoa tu order hapigani lkn anasikilizwa sana like Ukraine

Putin hajengi anabomoa, akumbuke USA ni mjanja sana anatumia akili nyingi sana kumdhofisha yule wanao ona kama tishio kwao la ukubwa duniani, Putin angetumia akili bwashee

Putin anatakiwa ajenge kambi kubwa litakalo linda maslahi yake ya ukubwa duniani, kama alivyofanya USA ok, lakini kukurupukia vita anaenda kuaribu bwashee

Naona mrusi atakuwa kambi ya uchina, kulinda maslahi ya ukubwa wa uchina duniani lakini siyo China kuwa kwenye kambi ya kulinda maslahi ya Urusi ya ukubwa duniani ok

Bwashee we are in the same boat, clarification uliyotoa hapo ni tosha kabisa..

Na kama umenielewa sijachagua upande ila nilitaka tu huyu jamaa asituhadae kuna mtu yeyote mzuri kwetu kati ya USA na Russia, siye tubaki na ushabiki kama ilivyo siku zote, tukisubiri uelekeo wa upepo twende nao. Ok.

Ndo maana hapo kabla nilitolea mfano nchi za Korea kwamba vibaraka wa USA wataishi maisha ya South Korea kwamba mapambio mengi yatahusu demokrasia lakini USA yeye ndo anajua anafaidikaje....

Na wale vibaraka wa URUSI wataishi maisha ya North Korea kwamba mwamba mmoja anaiamulia nchi yote kila kitu, yaani hakuna demokrasia... Sasa hapo ndo USA anaingiza propaganda kupitia wananchi wako kukuharibia, kama Libya na sasa Iran na Georgia..

And obvious akili ya Vita ya Propaganda kama za USA huwa zinashinda unless uwe na mega-war weapons kushinda Vita kwa SILAHA za moto which Putin is trying to do...

Kakijana · Mar 12, 2023

umshana said:
Mkuu unasema kweli haisaidii kuweka tu jumla zote mbili kandokando.
Kama kwenye picha hiyo:
View attachment 2538683
Jinsi alivyosema mtazamaji mmoja: "Why Russia Gets More Bang for the Ruble"
(jisomee Why Russian Military Expenditure Is Much Higher Than Commonly Understood (As Is China’s) - War on the Rocks)
Ila ukifungua budgets hizo, unaweza kuanza kuliganisha kidogo. Matumizi ya US kwa "procurement" (ununuzi) peke yake ilikuwa bil. 140 (2010) hadi 97 (2013). Tena kiasi kinacholingana (takriban) kwa "Research, Development, Test, and Evaluation (RDT&E)". Hata ukiona Urusi inazalisha vitu nafuu zaidi, sioni kwamba inakaribia viwango hivyo. Tofauti ni ukubwa wa uchumi na hivyo uwezo wa kuwekeza (na kupoteza).

Sababu ya kutoona silaha bora za Kirusi kwenye uwanja itakuwa katika tofauti hiyo. Mfano kutoonekana kwa Armata 14, au ule mfumo wa kulinda vifaru unaoitwa Arena. Watazamaji wengi wa kimataifa waliona ni bora - lakini karibu hauonekani uwanjani.
Ila ukipendelea kuamini kwamba Urusi kwa sababu zake bado hakuchukua silaha zake bora (ilhali inatazama tu vifo vya askari na uharibifu wa vifaa) - basi si mantiki ninayoelewa.

Hivi ukiweka mayai uliyonayo yoote kwenye kapu moja ukiwa unaenda sokoni, then ukajikwaa kinatokea nn? Wee unafikiri usa hana abram za kupeleka ukrain? Au german hana leopad za kushato kuzishindilia huko ndichi kwenye kamserereko? Au unahis UK hana chalenja za kucheza rede pale ndichi kwa zeleboy? Ukiliwaza hilo utaelew kwann huzion hzo T armata cjui avangrd

Kakijana · Mar 12, 2023

ndammu said:
Anapoandika huelewi??

Unaelewa maandishi ni ya kiswahili..ila dhima ya aya nzima huwez kuielewa..utafikiri anatumia google kutafsir sentensi zake..au ww huna macho? Au naww hujapita shule za TZ

Kakijana · Mar 12, 2023

F mkamilo said:
[emoji23] mmeona hili Punga Kiswahili chake?

Alieligundua hili [emoji119][emoji119]

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Yaani kama unapitiaga baadhi ya makala za bbc swahili...bas huyu jamaa nahisi ndio mwandishi wa hizo makala, maana MTz tuu ndio atakaegundua kasoro za hawa jamaa ambao sio WaTz

lee Vladimir cleef · Mar 12, 2023

Extrovert said:
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Hii taarifa ilimpa Biden tumbo la kuhara maana imekuja by suprise pale non sense weapon za mnyamakazi Putin ziliponyoosha hadi kwenye uvungu wa dunia na kuwakaanga kenge wa NATO

Ha ha ha haa,NATO ni kwa ajili akina Libya TU Mzee baba.

Ngongo · Mar 12, 2023

Russia ni habari nyingine.

lee Vladimir cleef · Mar 12, 2023

Meckyrich said:
[emoji1166]Mexico applied to join BRICS

BRICS surpasses G7 in global GDPView attachment 2546632

Aisee,hii inaweza kua aina nyingine ya mgogoro baina ya kama vile Urusi na Ukraine,hapa itakua USA na mexico.
Tofauti ni moja TU Brics ni chama Cha kiuchumi.
Ila point kubwa hapa ni kua ushawishi wa Urusi na china unakua kwa Kasi ya mwanga.

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