Special Thread: Yanayojiri Mgogoro wa Ukraine na Urusi. Nini chanzo na hatma ya mzozo?

[kilwakivinje]

Nadhani nenda muhimbili Kuna madaktati wapya wamefika kumaliza mwaka mmoja wanaweza kukutibu tatizo la punyeto.

Anajifanya pro Russia [emoji635] kumbe pro west aliyejificha kupooza mambo

 

[lee Vladimir cleef]

[emoji23][emoji23][emoji23] bora umeamua kuongeza nguvu

Eeh bana haiwezekani mbaki peke yenu TU.
Mbona mwanzo wa SMO hii tulikua nusu kwa nusu.
Leo hii siwaoni wengine,je Wengine hao wameenda wapi?

 

[jameshyela]

Wale wapotoshaji hapa watapita kimyaa!



[emoji298][emoji298][emoji298]President Volodymyr Zelensky said that though Ukraine’s summer counteroffensive may seem slow now, it will pick up the pace, just like the operations in the fall.

“In the fall, we had counteroffensive actions, and it seemed that this was a slow process. But at some point, everyone saw how we rapidly began to advance. It will be the same now,” Zelensky said in an interview with the BBC published on June 22.

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BBC hao ambao saizi wapo bize na Nyambizi?

 

[kilwakivinje]

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Mzigo muda wowote russia wanauingiza uwanjani tayari kwa operation yoyote. Dude lina tani 100 na linasafiri 18k kilimeters.

Na Lina uwezo wa kuangamiza nchi Kama France [emoji632] yote

 

[lee Vladimir cleef]

Natega kila sehemu ya jamii forrum nione kama sehemu nyingine kwa siku mbili izi kama hatochangia[emoji23][emoji23][emoji23]

Ha ha ha,huo ni unoko Sasa?
Tuacheni sisi Pro NATO Sasa hivi tuko bize sana.

 

[mohamedidrisa789]

Wale wapotoshaji hapa watapita kimyaa!



[emoji298][emoji298][emoji298]President Volodymyr Zelensky said that though Ukraine’s summer counteroffensive may seem slow now, it will pick up the pace, just like the operations in the fall.

“In the fall, we had counteroffensive actions, and it seemed that this was a slow process. But at some point, everyone saw how we rapidly began to advance. It will be the same now,” Zelensky said in an interview with the BBC published on June 22.

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Maneno uwa ayajengi ghorofa kipanya44.angekuwa anasema ivyo huku kashika bunduki front, sio anaongea ivyo wakati kajificha kwenye andaki[emoji23][emoji23][emoji23]

 

[lee Vladimir cleef]

Amekimbia jukwaa huyo wala hana lolote
zaidi ya ilo.alikuwa anajifanya anajua sana kuhusu vita ila sasa anaona aibu

Mtaalamu wa silaha zote duniani kuanzia mkuki Hadi ICBM

 

[mohamedidrisa789]

Mtaalamu wa silaha zote duniani kuanzia mkuki Hadi ICBM

[emoji23][emoji23][emoji23] kuna sehemu nimemuona anachangia mada kuhusu F-35, huku akiponda ndege za Urusi.ikabidi nijiulize ndo huyu aliyesema kuwa yupo porini huko network haipatikani au nimemfananisha[emoji1787][emoji1787][emoji1787]

 

[kilwakivinje]

Eeh bana haiwezekani mbaki peke yenu TU.
Mbona mwanzo wa SMO hii tulikua nusu kwa nusu.
Leo hii siwaoni wengine,je Wengine hao wameenda wapi?

Wanabadilishana shift wanakuja ngoja wapewe Vya kuongea

 

[lee Vladimir cleef]

Hatari kweli kweli....sio rahisi kwa Putin kutumia nuclear hapo Ukraine.

Putin sio mjinga kiasi hicho.

😁😁😁🇷🇺💪

 

[lee Vladimir cleef]

Wanabadilishana shift wanakuja ngoja wapewe Vya kuongea

😀😃😀😃😀😁😁😁😁😃😀

 

[lee Vladimir cleef]

[emoji23][emoji23][emoji23] kuna sehemu nimemuona anachangia mada kuhusu F-35, huku akiponda ndege za Urusi.ikabidi nijiulize ndo huyu aliyesema kuwa yupo porini huko network haipatikani au nimemfananisha[emoji1787][emoji1787][emoji1787]

Mwamba na wenzake wanasubiri vijitukio ambavyo havina madhara Ukraine walifanya,wanarudi kwa nguvu sana.

 

[Nkuba25]

Chancellor Scholz promises Ukraine security guarantees, but not quick membership in NATO, — Reuters.

"We need to look at the current situation soberly. I propose to focus on the main priority in Vilnius, namely, strengthening Ukraine's combat capability.
Our goal is stable military support for Ukraine, in particular, with modern Western weapons, as well as strengthening the country's economic stability, which is defending itself from Russian aggression," Scholz said.

The Chancellor of Germany emphasized that our country would not be able to join the Alliance until the end of the Russian-Ukrainian war. According to Sholtz, "the Ukrainian authorities recognize this."

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Key points:

1. Promises Ukraine security guarantees,
2. Not quick membership in NATO
3. Looking the current situation soberly

Chancellor wa German ameamua kutoa ya moyoni. Na hii yote imekuja baada ya hiyo inayoitwa Counteroffensive kushindwa.

Sponsors hawaoni tena sababu ya kuendelea na huu mgogoro wakati Ukraine hawafanyi gain yoyote.

Wanatamka kwamba Security guarantees Ndio option kwa sasa. Na wanaambiana waliangalia ili jambo kwa akili timamu

Hizo akili timamu ndio zimeanza kuwarejea sasa?

 

[mohamedidrisa789]

West kwenye maneno ni hatari ila kwenye vitendo hamna kitu.wamewaongopea mabilionea wakatazame titanic chini ya maji kumbe vifaa vyenyewe vya uwokozi awana[emoji23][emoji23][emoji23][emoji23].

Wamewatoa kafara madoni

 

[Bwana Utam]

Ukraine apigwe tu...

Kabisaaaa wafe tuuu kwanza MAGAIDI

 

[lee Vladimir cleef]

Kitu pekee ambacho NATO walichobakiwa nacho kumdhibiti Valdimir Putin ni kumuombea kifo Tu.hamna namna nyingine.

 

[Bwana Utam]

Huu uzi unanuka propaganda mpaka kero!japo ukweli mchache but pro war(wapenda) wamezidi kwa propaganda na matusu,shukrani kwa huyu ndugu anaitwa Umshana anajitahidi kuwa lugha za logic,fact na nidhamu!

sina upande,ila sipendi vita!

Hata mimi sina upande ila UKRAINE [emoji1255] iendeleee tu kupigwa

 

[Gagnija]

Kitu pekee ambacho NATO walichobakiwa nacho kumdhibiti Valdimir Putin ni kumuombea kifo Tu.hamna namna nyingine.

Wenye akili hukohuko NATO wanajua Putin akifa anaweza kuja mrithi wake hatari zaidi kama ilivyotokea Korea kaskazini.

Mtu kama Medvedev anaweza kuwa kitisho kwa west kuliko Putin.

 

[umshana]

Najua lengo ni kukwepesha watu wasifutilie namna counteroffensive ya Ukraine ilivyogeuka "kamuliwa-ufedhuli" kwa kichapo kutoka Russia.
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Miezi kadhaa imeelezwa hapa. Endapo si mvivu wa kusoma.
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Neocons(US and allies) and the Ukraine Coup​

Of relevance to the ongoing war in Ukraine, this incisive article was first written by the late Robert Parry on February 24, 2014, in the immediate wake of the US Sponsored Coup d’Etat.

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American neocons helped destabilize Ukraine and engineer the overthrow of its elected government, a “regime change” on Russia’s western border. But the coup – and the neo-Nazi militias at the forefront – also reveal divisions within the Obama administration.

More than five years into his presidency, Barack Obama has failed to take full control over his foreign policy, allowing a bureaucracy shaped by long years of Republican control and spurred on by a neocon-dominated U.S. news media to frustrate many of his efforts to redirect America’s approach to the world in a more peaceful direction.

But Obama deserves a big dose of the blame for this predicament because he did little to neutralize the government holdovers and indeed played into their hands with his initial appointments to head the State and Defense departments, Hillary Clinton, a neocon-leaning Democrat, and Robert Gates, a Republican cold warrior, respectively.

Even now, key U.S. diplomats are more attuned to hard-line positions than to promoting peace. The latest example is Ukraine where U.S. diplomats, including Assistant Secretary of State for European Affairs Victoria Nuland and U.S. Ambassador to Ukraine Geoffrey Pyatt, are celebrating the overthrow of an elected pro-Russian government.
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Neocons and the Ukraine Coup - Global Research

Assistant Secretary of State for European Affairs Victoria Nuland. Of relevance to the ongoing war in Ukraine, this incisive article was first written by the late Robert Parry on February 24, 2014, in the immediate wake of the US Sponsored Coup d’Etat. *** American neocons helped destabilize...

www.globalresearch.ca

Sioni chochote kuwa Nuland alikaa miezi huko Ukraine.

 

[Al assad]

Hatari kweli kweli....sio rahisi kwa Putin kutumia nuclear hapo Ukraine.

Putin sio mjinga kiasi hicho.

Mkuu!Hatat mimi nimekuwa nikiwaza kama wewe.ila nahisi Putin anaweza tishia(hata pipa) nuke kupiga Ukraine kama Crimea itashambuliwa(ground offensive) au west wakipeleka peace keepes.(rejea kauli za viongozi wa EU)