Uwepo wa Mungu unadhihirika kwa alama zake na viumbe vyake

[Lastmost]

Kama vilivyo complex hivi vyote vyenye high order hivi ulivyovitaja, bahari,jua, watu, wanyama, ni lazima viwe vimeumbwa na higher intelligence, basi complexity haiwezi kutokea bila kuumbwa na higher intelligence.

Sasa, hapo hapo linakuja swali, kwa kanuni hiyo hiyo ya kwamba kilicho complex hakiwezi kuwepo tu, ni lazima kiwe kimeumbwa, hata Mungu wako naye atahitaji juwa aneumbwa, na aliyemuumba naye atahitaji kuwa na muumba, hivyo hivyo, bila mwisho.

Kwa hiyo, ukisema kuwa bahari, jua, watu ni lazima vimeumbwa, kwa sababu complexity haiwezi kutokea tu, kimsingi hapo unasema Mungu hayupo, labda hujaelewa tu kwamba unajenga hoja kwamba Mungu hayupo.

Ni hivi.

Ama, hivi vitu complex ni lazima viwe vimeumbwa, ama si lazima.

Kama si lazima viwe vimeumbwa, hapo Mungu hahitajiki, kwa sababu kama ulivyosema, unatumia dhana ya kwamba Mungu kaumba kudhihirisha Mungu yupo. Kama vitu hivi si lazima viwe vimeumbwa, basi Mungu hahitajiki.

Kama ni lazima viwe vimeumbwa, basi huyo unayemuita Mungu naye ni lazima awe kaumbwa, na kama ni lazima awe kaumbwa, huyo si Mungu.

Sijui hata kama una uwezo wa kuelewa hizi hoja.

Mungu Ni Omnipotent,yeye ndo mwanzo na mwisho,yeye hajaumbwa wala hajasababishwa kuwepo na chochote.
Vyote vimefanywa na yeye.
Kubali kataaa,Ulimwengu umeumbwa na Mungu.

 

[Suhendra]

Kuna siku mambo ya kiroho yalisibitika kisayansi?

Sana tu. Mkuu sisi waislam tuna amini Qur'an ni zaidi hata ya hiyo sayansi kaa ujifunze kwanza mambo mengi katika maandiko yetu ya Qur'an yapo kisayansi

 

[Lastmost]

Hivi mwanadamu ambaye Ni mavumbi tuuu anapata wapi ujasiri wa kusema hakuna Mungu.
Hata kama Ni ujuaji au kiburi tusifike huko.
God exists and will exist forever.
Amen

 

[Big L]

Kama vilivyo complex hivi vyote vyenye high order hivi ulivyovitaja, bahari,jua, watu, wanyama, ni lazima viwe vimeumbwa na higher intelligence, basi complexity haiwezi kutokea bila kuumbwa na higher intelligence.

Sasa, hapo hapo linakuja swali, kwa kanuni hiyo hiyo ya kwamba kilicho complex hakiwezi kuwepo tu, ni lazima kiwe kimeumbwa, hata Mungu wako naye atahitaji juwa aneumbwa, na aliyemuumba naye atahitaji kuwa na muumba, hivyo hivyo, bila mwisho.

Kwa hiyo, ukisema kuwa bahari, jua, watu ni lazima vimeumbwa, kwa sababu complexity haiwezi kutokea tu, kimsingi hapo unasema Mungu hayupo, labda hujaelewa tu kwamba unajenga hoja kwamba Mungu hayupo.

Ni hivi.

Ama, hivi vitu complex ni lazima viwe vimeumbwa, ama si lazima.

Kama si lazima viwe vimeumbwa, hapo Mungu hahitajiki, kwa sababu kama ulivyosema, unatumia dhana ya kwamba Mungu kaumba kudhihirisha Mungu yupo. Kama vitu hivi si lazima viwe vimeumbwa, basi Mungu hahitajiki.

Kama ni lazima viwe vimeumbwa, basi huyo unayemuita Mungu naye ni lazima awe kaumbwa, na kama ni lazima awe kaumbwa, huyo si Mungu.

Sijui hata kama una uwezo wa kuelewa hizi hoja.

It makes sense. Creators watakuwa wengi sana kiasi kwamba utagundua hizi ni kama stories tu wala hakuna ukweli wowote.

 

[Suhendra]

Leta uthibitisho kuwa Mungu yupo na ndiye aliyeumba Dunia. Kama hauna uthibitisho hizo ni hadithi kama za Sungura na Fisi.

Uthibitisho;
للذي خلق سبع سموت طباقا ماتري في خلق الرحمن من تفوت فارجع البصر هل تري من فطور
Ambae ameumba mingu saba kwa tabaka hutaona tofauti yoyote katika uumbaji wake mwingi wa rehema basi rudisha jicho. Je, utaona ufa wowote?

Rudisha jicho lako mbinguni na tazama kwa makini. Je, pamoja na ukubwa wake na upana wake utaona humo mpasuko au ufa wowote?

 

[Suhendra]

Hoja yako ya kwamba nani kaweza kutengeneza mbingu yake, na kama hakuna, kitu ambacho anakifanya Mungu mtu hakiwezi, kwa kuanzia, ina makosa ya kimantiki.

Logical fallacy. Logical non sequitur.

Ukweli kwamba mtu hajaweza kutengeneza mbingu yake unathibitisha kuwa mtu hajaweza kutengeneza mbingu yake.

Ukweli kwamba mtu hajaweza kutengeneza mbingu yake, hauthibitishi Mungu yupo kweli. Thibitisha kuwa Mungu yupo kweli.

Yani ni hivi, mimi nikishindwa kutengeneza filamu kama ya James Bond 007, hilo halithibitishi kwamba James Bond 007 yupo kweli.

Ukweli kwamba mimi siwezi kutengeneza filamu ya James Bond unathibitisha tu kuwa mimi siwezi kutengeneza filamu ya James Bond. Inawezekana kabisa nikawa siwezi kutengeneza filamu ya James Bond, na James Bond akawa hayupo, ni muhusika wa kufikirika tu wa riwaya na filamu, nje ya riwaya na filamu hizo hayupo.

Vivyo hivyo, inawezekana kabisa mimi nikashindwa kutengeneza mbingu yangu, na Mungu akawa hayupo. Hakuna contradiction wala logical inconsistency hapo.

Mimi kushindwa kufanya chochote hakuthibitishi Mungu yupo, kunathibitisha nimeshindwa kufanya hicho kitu.

Ukiunganisha mawili haya ambayo hayana uhusiano, unaanxa hoja kwa kufanya logical fallacy ya logical non sequitur.

Actually, mtu anaweza kusema kuwa ukweli kwamba hakuna mtu aliyeweza kutengeneza mbingu yake, unathibitisha Mungu hayupo.

Kwa sababu, Mungu mjuzi wa yote, mwenye upendo wote na ujuzi wote, angekuwepo, angeruhusu kila mtu awe na uwezo wa kutengeneza mbingu yake. Mungu huyo si mchoyo wa neema. Angetupa tu neema hiyo ambayo yeye haimgharimu kitu.

Kwa hivyo, ukweli kwamba hakuna mtu aliyeweza kutengeneza mbingu yake, unaonesha Mungu huyo hayupo.

Hoja yako ukiitazama kijuujuu, utaona inaonesha Mungu yupo.

Lakini, ukiichambua kwa kina, utaona inaonesha Mungu hayupo.

Hivi mkuu filam unalinganisha na mambo ya makiti serious

 

[Kiranga]

Kuna siku mambo ya kiroho yalisibitika kisayansi?

Kwanza jifunze tofauti ya "kusibitika" na "kuthibitika".

Pili, nimeeleza sana tofauti ya habari za imani, jinsi imani ilivyo haki ya kila mtu kuamini anavyotaka, ukweli kwamba imani ni haki ya kikatiba, na kwamba imani ni haki ya utu wa kila mtu, na jinsi imani inavyotetewa na "Universal Declarationnof Human Rights" tangu December 10 1948.

Nimeeleza kwamba imani ni haki ya mtu binafsi, na hata mimi ambaye siamini Mungu, nitatetea haki za wanaoamini kuamini wanavyotaka.

Nimepingana na mtu mwingine asiyeamini dini kama mimi anayetaka kupiga marufuku imani za dini, nikimueleza kuwa haki ya kuamini ni haki ya msingi sana, kila mtu aachiwe aamini anavyotaka.

Siko hapa kujadiki imani ya mtu.

Niko hapa kuangalia ukweli uko wapi.

Imani unaweza kuamini chochote unachotaka, ukweli au uongo.

Kutafuta ukweli kunajikita kwenye upande wa ukweli tu.

Unaelewa tofauti hii?

 

[Suhendra]

Mkuu Qur'an hihi ya jua kulizunguka dunia, AU kuna version nyingine.

Kama Qur'an ingekuwa haina mapungufu,wavaa kobasi wangekuwa na maarifa Sana cha ajabu ni wajinga

Ukisha kuwa mjinga huwezi kuona kama watu wana akili utaona ni wajinga wenzio tu. Kaa darasani usome kwanza

 

[Suhendra]

Nimeshaweka mapungufu ya Quran mengi sana hapa. Mtu aliomba, nilivyomuwekea ayatatue, akakimbia.

Huwa mnaanza hivihivi. Mkiwekewa aya zinazopingana na kuonesha mapungufu ya Quran, mnakimbia.

Bisha nikuwekee aya hapa.

Hiyo aya ndo nilikuwa naisubiri uweke

 

[Kiranga]

Nonsense

Hayo ni mawazo yako lakini haina maana kila mtu aishie hapo kufikiria kama ulivyo ishia wewe

Yapi ni mawazo yangu, kwa sababu gani, mantiki yako ni ipi?

Jenga hoja, usidismiss tu vitu bila hoja.

Vinginevyo utajionesha huna hoja, unalazimisha mambo tu.

 

[Kiranga]

Mungu Ni Omnipotent,yeye ndo mwanzo na mwisho,yeye hajaumbwa wala hajasababishwa kuwepo na chochote.
Vyote vimefanywa na yeye.
Kubali kataaa,Ulimwengu umeumbwa na Mungu.

Hizi ninkauli za imani ambazo hazijathibitishwa wala kujengewa hoja.

Naweza kukwambia kimba langu nililokunya leo asubuhi ni omnipotent, lenyewe ndilo mwanzo na mwisho, halijaumbwa wala kusababishwa kuwepo na chochote, vyote vimefanywa na hilo kimba. Kubali kataa, ulimwengu umeumbwa na hilo kimba langu.

Ukibisha wewe huwezi tu kueleea.

Mimi kusema hivyo, kutamaanisha kuwa ni kweli kimba langu nililokunya asubuhi lina sifa hizo?

 

[Kiranga]

It makes sense. Creators watakuwa wengi sana kiasi kwamba utagundua hizi ni kama stories tu wala hakuna ukweli wowote.

Yeah.

Ukisema complexity si lazima iwe imeumbwa by design, unasema Mungu si lazima awepo. Hii habari ya "Mungu ni lazima awepo kwa sababu yeye ndiye muumba wa kwanza" inatoweka.

Ukisema kwamba, complexity ni lazima iwe imeumbwa by design, kimsingi unasema Mungu hayupo, kwa sababu Mungu naye ni complexity, na ikiwa complexity inahitaji muumbaji, Mungu naye atahitaji muumba, na muumba wake atahitaji muumba, bila mwisho.

Either way, Mungu halazimiki kuwepo au hayupo kabisa.

Sijui watu wangapi wanaelewa hizi hoja.

 

[Lotus 123]

Kwa nini swali lako linakuwa "aliye...?".

Huoni kuwa swali lako linalenga kwenye jibu unalolitaka tayari? Huoni swali yako lina bias, kasumba ya kwamba kuna "aliyeumba"?

Sayansi imeshaelezea vizuri kabisa jinsi jua lilivyotokea. Na maelezo hayo hayamuhutaji Mungu.

Wewe umesoma nini kuhusu maelezo ya kisayansi kuhusu jua lilivyotokea?

Tunasoma haya mambo au tunashangaa tu na kusema hii ni kazi ya Mungu?

Mbona vitu vyote vipo mtandaoni? Tatizo ni nini, ni hiki Kiingereza?

Sun: Facts - NASA Science

From our vantage point on Earth, the Sun may appear like an unchanging source of light and heat in the sky. But the Sun is a dynamic star, constantly changing

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Formation​

The Sun formed about 4.6 billion years ago in a giant, spinning cloud of gas and dust called the solar nebula. As the nebula collapsed under its own gravity, it spun faster and flattened into a disk. Most of the nebula's material was pulled toward the center to form our Sun, which accounts for 99.8% of our solar system’s mass. Much of the remaining material formed the planets and other objects that now orbit the Sun. (The rest of the leftover gas and dust was blown away by the young Sun's early solar wind.)

Hiyo dust ilitokea wapi?

 

[Lotus 123]

Kwa nini swali lako linakuwa "aliye...?".

Huoni kuwa swali lako linalenga kwenye jibu unalolitaka tayari? Huoni swali yako lina bias, kasumba ya kwamba kuna "aliyeumba"?

Sayansi imeshaelezea vizuri kabisa jinsi jua lilivyotokea. Na maelezo hayo hayamuhutaji Mungu.

Wewe umesoma nini kuhusu maelezo ya kisayansi kuhusu jua lilivyotokea?

Tunasoma haya mambo au tunashangaa tu na kusema hii ni kazi ya Mungu?

Mbona vitu vyote vipo mtandaoni? Tatizo ni nini, ni hiki Kiingereza?

Sun: Facts - NASA Science

From our vantage point on Earth, the Sun may appear like an unchanging source of light and heat in the sky. But the Sun is a dynamic star, constantly changing

science.nasa.gov

Formation​

The Sun formed about 4.6 billion years ago in a giant, spinning cloud of gas and dust called the solar nebula. As the nebula collapsed under its own gravity, it spun faster and flattened into a disk. Most of the nebula's material was pulled toward the center to form our Sun, which accounts for 99.8% of our solar system’s mass. Much of the remaining material formed the planets and other objects that now orbit the Sun. (The rest of the leftover gas and dust was blown away by the young Sun's early solar wind.)

Hizo gas zilitokea wapi?Huwa mmnapenda kusema huyo Mungu alitokea wapi?na mimi nauliza hyo solar nebula ilitokea wapi na hayo mawingu?

 

[Kiranga]

Hivi mkuu filam unalinganisha na mambo ya makiti serious

Umeelewa hoja hapo?

Siongelei filamu.

Naongelea logical fallacy, logical non sequitur.

Mtu kushindwa kutengeneza mbingu haithibitishi Mungu yupo. Unaelewa hilo?

 

[Suhendra]

Kwa nini unajikita kwenye "anayeweka"?

swali lako lenyewe lina bias.

Hujasoma osmosis?

Soma hapa chini, hawamuhitaji Mungu kuelezea jinsi maji yanavyoingia katika nazi.

How does water exist inside a coconut? - The Petri Dish

WATER absorbed by the root system flows against gravity through the capillaries to the nut. Freshwater that gets accumulated in coconut is actually ‘endosperm’ or the food or nourishment for the coconut’s growth. Nourishing endosperm is in the liquid form in the initial stage of the green...

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Shida yako mkuu hujaisoma Qur'an halafu unakuja kuleta hoja ambazo hazieleweki Qur'an ni full stop.
Surat Annaba't (78)
وأنزلنا من المعصرت ماء ثجاجا
Na tume teremsha kutoka mawinguni maji yanayo tiririka kwa wingi.
لنخرج به حباونبات
(2)Ili title kwa maji hayo nafaka na mimea
Yaani:
Ili tutoe (tuoteshe) kwa maji hayo nafaka za chakula kama vile ngano, shairi na mfano wake na mimea ni ile wanayo kula wanyama kama vile nyasi na mimea mingine

وجنت أافافا
(3)Na bustani zenye kusongana
Yaani; bustani zenye kushikana kwa matawi yake

 

[Kiranga]

Hizo gas zilitokea wapi?Huwa mmnapenda kusema huyo Mungu alitokea wapi?na mimi nauliza hyo solar nebula ilitokea wapi na hayo mawingu?

Sawa, kama hilo swali la "kilitokea wapi?" ni muhimu sana, nikikukubalia habari za Mungu, na huyo Mungu alitokea wapi?

 

[Kiranga]

Hiyo aya ndo nilikuwa naisubiri uweke

Contradictions in the Qur'an | Christian Apologetics & Research Ministry

Explore Christian Apologetics, theology, and critical answers to today's questions about God, the Bible, and the Christian faith at Christian Apologetics & Research Ministry.

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Contradictions in the Qur’an​

by Matt Slick | Dec 12, 2008 | Islam, World Religions
The Qur’an states that it is a perfect book preserved on tablets in heaven (Surah 85:21-22). If the Qur’an is a perfect book from Allah, then there shouldn’t be any contradictions in it. Of course, the Muslims will deny that any contradictions exist in the Qur’an, but they do. Some of the contradictions below could be debated, but some of them are clearly contradictions.
A contradiction occurs when one statement on a subject excludes the possibility of another. The first one here is a good example. In Surah 19:67, it states that man was created out of nothing. In 15:26, man is created from clay. Since clay is something, we have a contradiction since “nothing” excludes the possibility of “clay.” Both cannot be true.
All quotes from the Qur’an, unless otherwise specified, are from Yusuf Ali and can be found at the Qur’an online.

1. What was man created from: blood, clay, dust, or nothing?
   1. “Created man, out of a (mere) clot of congealed blood,” (96:2).
   2. “We created man from sounding clay, from mud moulded into shape, (15:26).
   3. “The similitude of Jesus before Allah is as that of Adam; He created him from dust, then said to him: “Be”. And he was,” (3:59).
   4. “But does not man call to mind that We created him before out of nothing?” (19:67, Yusuf Ali). Also, 52:35).
   5. “He has created man from a sperm-drop; and behold this same (man) becomes an open disputer! (16:4).
2. Is there or is there not compulsion in religion according to the Qur’an?
   1. “Let there be no compulsion in religion: Truth stands out clear from Error: whoever rejects evil and believes in Allah hath grasped the most trustworthy hand-hold, that never breaks. And Allah heareth and knoweth all things,” (2:256).
   2. “And an announcement from Allah and His Messenger, to the people (assembled) on the day of the Great Pilgrimage, – that Allah and His Messenger dissolve (treaty) obligations with the Pagans. If then, ye repent, it were best for you; but if ye turn away, know ye that ye cannot frustrate Allah. And proclaim a grievous penalty to those who reject Faith,” (9:3).
   3. “But when the forbidden months are past, then fight and slay the Pagans wherever ye find them, and seize them, beleaguer them, and lie in wait for them in every stratagem (of war); but if they repent, and establish regular prayers and practice regular charity, then open the way for them: for Allah is Oft-forgiving, Most Merciful,” (9:5).
   4. Fight those who believe not in Allah nor the Last Day, nor hold that forbidden which hath been forbidden by Allah and His Messenger, nor acknowledge the religion of Truth, (even if they are) of the People of the Book, until they pay the Jizya with willing submission, and feel themselves subdued,” (9:29).
3. The first Muslim was Muhammad? Abraham? Jacob? Moses?
   1. “And I [Muhammad] am commanded to be the first of those who bow to Allah in Islam,” (39:12).
   2. “When Moses came to the place appointed by Us, and his Lord addressed him, He said: “O my Lord! show (Thyself) to me, that I may look upon thee.” Allah said: “By no means canst thou see Me (direct); But look upon the mount; if it abide in its place, then shalt thou see Me.” When his Lord manifested His glory on the Mount, He made it as dust. And Moses fell down in a swoon. When he recovered his senses he said: “Glory be to Thee! to Thee I turn in repentance, and I am the first to believe.” (7:143).
   3. “And this was the legacy that Abraham left to his sons, and so did Jacob; “Oh my sons! Allah hath chosen the Faith for you; then die not except in the Faith of Islam,” (2:132).
4. Does Allah forgive or not forgive those who worship false gods?
   1. Allah forgiveth not that partners should be set up with Him; but He forgiveth anything else, to whom He pleaseth; to set up partners with Allah is to devise a sin Most heinous indeed,” (4:48). Also 4:116
   2. The people of the Book ask thee to cause a book to descend to them from heaven: Indeed they asked Moses for an even greater (miracle), for they said: “Show us Allah in public,” but they were dazed for their presumption, with thunder and lightning. Yet they worshipped the calf even after clear signs had come to them; even so we forgave them; and gave Moses manifest proofs of authority,” (4:153).
5. Are Allah’s decrees changed or not?
   1. “Rejected were the messengers before thee: with patience and constancy they bore their rejection and their wrongs until Our aid did reach them: there is none that can alter the words (and decrees) of Allah. Already hast thou received some account of those messengers,” (6:34).
   2. “The word of thy Lord doth find its fulfillment in truth and in justice: None can change His words: for He is the one who heareth and knoweth all, (6:115).
   3. None of Our revelations do We abrogate or cause to be forgotten, but We substitute something better or similar: Knowest thou not that Allah Hath power over all things?” (2:106).
   4. When We substitute one revelation for another,- and Allah knows best what He reveals (in stages),- they say, “Thou art but a forger”: but most of them understand not,” (16:101).
6. Was Pharaoh killed or not killed by drowning?
   1. “We took the Children of Israel across the sea: Pharaoh and his hosts followed them in insolence and spite. At length, when overwhelmed with the flood, he said: “I believe that there is no god except Him Whom the Children of Israel believe in: I am of those who submit (to Allah in Islam). (It was said to him): “Ah now!- But a little while before, wast thou in rebellion!- and thou didst mischief (and violence)! This day shall We save thee in the body, that thou mayest be a sign to those who come after thee! but verily, many among mankind are heedless of Our Signs!” (10:90-92).
   2. Moses said, “Thou knowest well that these things have been sent down by none but the Lord of the heavens and the earth as eye-opening evidence: and I consider thee indeed, O Pharaoh, to be one doomed to destruction!” So he resolved to remove them from the face of the earth: but We did drown him and all who were with him,” (17:102-103).
7. Is wine consumption good or bad?
   1. O ye who believe! Intoxicants and gambling, (dedication of) stones, and (divination by) arrows, are an abomination,–of Satan’s handwork: eschew such (abomination), that ye may prosper,” (5:90).
   2. (Here is) a Parable of the Garden which the righteous are promised: in it are rivers of water incorruptible; rivers of milk of which the taste never changes; rivers of wine, a joy to those who drink; and rivers of honey pure and clear. In it there are for them all kinds of fruits; and Grace from their Lord. (Can those in such Bliss) be compared to such as shall dwell forever in the Fire, and be given, to drink, boiling water, so that it cuts up their bowels (to pieces)?” (47:15).
   3. Truly the Righteous will be in Bliss: On Thrones (of Dignity) will they command a sight (of all things): Thou wilt recognize in their faces the beaming brightness of Bliss. Their thirst will be slaked with Pure Wine sealed,” (83:22-25).

 

[Kiranga]

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Contradictions and Inconsistencies in the Qur'an | Center for Inquiry

Compiled here are Quranic contradictions and serious scientific flaws. Through meticulous work using authentic Quranic verses and Sahi hadiths, we can categorically prove that the Qur’an was a man-made book.

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Contradictions and Inconsistencies in the Qur’an​

June 20, 2018
Syed Kamran Mirza
Secular Islam

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Presented is an excerpt from Syed Kamran Mirza’s “Quranic Erroneous Science and Contradictions”
With some samples of Quranic contradictions and erroneous science has been prepared to rebut wishful Islamists who are claiming science in Quran. Qur’an has numerous scientific flaws, historical, ethical, and logical contradictions, though Mullahs and many western educated Islamists always claim that Quran is infallible and immutable words of God. To disprove their dishonest and deceitful claim—I have compiled some Quranic contradictions and serious scientific flaws in this essay by using authentic Quranic verses and Sahi hadiths, hence categorically proved that Qur’an was man made book.

A. Some Cosmological Flaws: (Scientific contradictions)​

(1) God created the Heaven first or, the Earth first (?)
Which one was created first? As you will see in the verses below, Allah at one time says that Earth was created first and another time He says that the Heaven was created first.

Quran-2:29: It is He who hath created for you all things that are on Earth; THEN He turned to the Heaven and made them into seven firmaments (Skies)….
Quran- 79:27-30: Are you the harder to create, or is the heaven that He built ? He raised the height thereof and ordered it; and He has made dark the night thereof, and He brought forth the morning thereof. And after that, He spread (flattened) the earth.

Now, does it match modern science? Do you believe that, Earth was created first, and after that, God created Heaven? Does modern science tell us that?

Numerical Contradictions​

There are many numerical contradictions in the Quran. God cannot make an error in doing simple calculations.
How many days did it take to create the Heavens and the Earth?

Quran-7:54: Your guardian-Lord is Allah who created the heavens and earth in Six Days
Quran-10:3: Verily your Lord is Allah, who created the heavens and earth in Six Days
Quran- 11:7: He it is Who created the heavens and earth in Six Days
Quran-25:29: He Who created the heavens and earth and all that is between, in Six Days

The above verses clearly state that Allah ( God) created the heavens and the Earth in 6 days. But the verses below stated

Quran-41:9 : Is it that ye deny Him who created the earth in Two Days ?
Quran- 41:10: He set on the (earth) Mountains standing firm high above it, and bestowed blessing on the earth, and measured therein all things to give them nourishment in due proportion, in FOUR DAYS…
Quran-41:12: So He completed them (heavens) as seven firmaments in Two days and …

Now do the math: 2 (for earth) + 4 (for nourishment) + 2 (for heavens) = 8 days; and not 6 days.
You can see similar mistakes in the verses: Quran-4:11, 4:12, and 4: 176 in inheritance law. In these verses one can see the total property after adding all distributed parts adds up more than the available property, i.e., the totals become more than 1 which are: 1.125 and 1.25. How come? A gross mathematical error, is it not? Allah’s Days Equal to 1000 Years or 50,000 Years?

Quran-22:47: A day in the sight of the Lord is like a thousand years of your reckoning.
Quran-32:5: To Him, on a Day, the space whereof will be a thousand years of your reckoning
Quran-70:4: The angels and the spirit ascend unto him in a day the measure whereof is fifty thousand years.

So, which one is it? Is the day of Allah equal to 1,000 earth years or 50,000 earth years? Creation of the Heavens and the Earth Which one was created first? As you will see in the verses below, Allah at one time says that Earth was created first and another time he says that the Heavens were created first.

Quran-2:29: It is He who hath created for you all things that are on Earth; THEN He turned to the Heavens and made them into seven firmaments (Skies)….
Quran- 79:27-30: Are you the harder to create, or is the heaven that He built? He raised the height thereof and ordered it, and He has made dark the night thereof, and He brought forth the morning thereof. And after that, He spread (flattened) the earth

Now, does it match modern science? Do you believe that, Earth was created first, and after that, God created Heaven? Does modern science tell us that? Or that there are SEVEN firmaments (layers)? Modern science tells us that, actually there is no such thing as a firmament or any roof over us, it is only a space with no known boundary at all. These verses simply reinforce the ancient idea of a ROOF over us which is called the SKY! How funny!

Sunset and Sunrise​

The Quran teaches us that the Sun sets in a muddy spring:

Quran-18:86: Till, when he (the traveler Zul-qarnain) reached the setting-place of the Sun, he found it going down into a muddy spring…
Quran- 18:90: Till, when he reached the rising-place of the Sun, he found it rising on a people for whom We had appointed no shelter from it.

There are serious scientific errors here. Firstly, it is a scientifically accepted fact that the Sun never goes down into a muddy spring. Secondly, this seems to presuppose a FLAT Earth, otherwise how can there be an extreme point in the West or in the East? A sunrise there would be basically just the same as at any other place on this earth, at land or sea. It would still look as if it is setting “far away.” It does say, that he reached THE PLACE where the Sun sets and in his second journey THE PLACE where it rises.

A Resting Place for the Sun?​

Quran-36:38: And the Sun runneth on unto a resting place for him. That is the measuring of the Mighty, the Wise.
Quran-36:39: And for the moon, We have appointed mansions till she return like an old shriveled palm leaf.
Quran-36:40: It is not for Sun to overtake the moon, nor doth the night outstrip the day. They float each in an orbit.

Allah is indeed a great scientist. Where are the Sun and the moon situated? Can anybody tell me how they could collide/meet/overtake each other? Are the Sun and moon neighbors to each other? I have the answer for this error: Ancient Allah saw (through observations with the naked eye) the Sun and moon traveling from east to west seemingly in the same part of the sky and on the same path. Yet they did not collide and continued to cause day and night, etc. Allah could hardly imagine that all these phenomena are simply due to Earth’s rotation and NOT by the Sun’s rotation.
The Sun is stationary for Earth, because the Earth is stuck in the Sun’s Gravity, just as we are stuck in the Earth’ gravity. Allah never says anywhere in the whole Quran that the earth rotates. Perhaps Allah could not feel Earth’s rotation.

A Resting Place for the Sun Was Confirmed By Hadiths​

Sahih Bukhari Hadiths:

Abzur Ghifari (ra) narrated: one day Prophet Mohammad (pbuh) asked me, “Abzar do you know after setting where does the Sun go?” I replied, I do not know, only Allah’s apostle could say better. Then the Prophet (SA) replied, “After setting, the Sun remains prostrated under Allah’s Aro’sh and waits for Allah’s command for rising again in the East. Day will come when sun will not get permission to rise again and Qeyamot will fall upon earth”.

Can anybody tell me what it is? It was the superstitious belief of ancient people reflected in the Quran and Hadiths by Allah. A 10-year-old boy would not tell such a fairy-tale today.

Why Allah created Stars​

Quran gives us further scientific knowledge by telling us that the stars were created by Allah as missiles to throw at the devils:

Quran-67:5: And We have (from of old) adorned the lowest heaven (sky) with lamps, and We have made such (Lamps as) missiles to drive away Satans…
Quran-37:6-8: We have indeed decorated the lower heaven (sky) with beauty (in) the stars, (for beauty) and for guard against all obstinate rebellious Satans. So they should not strain their ears in the direction of the Exalted Assembly but be cast away from every side.

Thus, the stars are nothing but missiles to throw at devils so that they may not eavesdrop on the heavenly council. Once again we find how Allah was high on his superstitious weirdness.

Sky/Heaven is Nothing but A ROOF or Canopy over the Earth​

Quran-21: 32: And We have made the sky a roof withheld (from them). Yet they turn away from its portents.
Quran-31:10: He hath created the heavens (Skies) without supports (pillars) that ye can see, and hath cast into the earth firm Mountains/Hills, so that it quake not with you; and He hath dispersed…
Quran-21: 32: And We have made the sky ( heavens ) as roof (canopy) well guarded…
Quran-2: 22: Who has made the earth your couch, And the heavens (Sky) your canopy

Modern science tells us- the Earth is entirely surrounded by space and there is no boundary even if we go billions of trillions of miles in any direction. The question is: If there is no sky above us then how in the world does the question of pillars come in? Do we really have a roof above us? Is there a canopy (Shamiaa’na) above the earth? In most Bengali translations of the Quran all Maulanas write: Allah akashke samiaana bannei-ese.
The Quran claims Allah gives rain from above! Ordinary People consider Allah as residing in the sky above the earth. But in cosmological science there is no up or down, that is, earth revolves and there is no fixed above or below for the earth. Every direction in outer space can be up or down. Are mountains there to prevent the earth from shaking? Give me a break!

Allah considered the sky as a roof over the earth which will break/be shattered during Doomsday​

Quran-78::19: And the heavens (sky) Shall be broken (opened) as if there were doors opens…
Quran-82:01: When the Sky is cleft asunder
Quran-69:16: And the sky will be Rent asunder, for it will that day be flimsy (soft)
Quran-81: 2: When the stars fall, losing their luster.

Yousuf Ali comments in his Tafsir: The beautiful blue sky overhead (which we take for granted in sunshine) will be shattered to pieces. Modern science tells us that there is no such thing as a roof, sky or any canopy over the earth, rather all around the Earth is limitless space. Only Allah knows what will break/get shattered or will get soft/flimsy or how doors will open – there are no walls, so where will doors come from? In some Ayats Allah threatened kafirs by saying: “I (Allah) will throw broken pieces of sky over your head.”

Sun and Moon Rotates​

Quran-31: 29: Seest thou not that Allah merges Night into Day and He merges Day into Night; That He has subjected the Sun and moon (to His law), each running its course for a term (time) appointed.
Quran-21: 33: It is He who created the Night and Day, And the Sun and Moon; each of them swim (float) along in its own course.

Ayats mentioned above could be found over and over again and again in almost every page of the Quran. This is because Allah, standing in the open Arab desert, saw very well that every morning the SUN was rising from the east and gradually (at the appointed time) setting to the west, and as a result, day and night follow. Allah actually shared this misconception (the Sun moving) of pre-historic people. Every time Allah speaks of the Sun & Moon, he referred to Day & Night, as if it is due to the Sun’s movement that day and night follows.
But surprisingly, all the hypocritical Mullahs give false credit to Allah by saying: Look, the Quran described the Sun’s movement 1400 years ago, which modern science only found out now. In the real world, the Sun takes 225 million years to make just one complete circle through the galaxy. And obviously this movement of the Sun has nothing to do with DAY & NIGHT of the earth. Actually, the Sun is stationary for the earth in a real sense, because the Earth is stuck in the giant gravitational force of the Sun. The Earth also moves along with the Sun wherever it goes, just the way that we are stuck to the Earth’s gravitational force and do not feel Earth’s movement at all. Why then, was Allah referring to the Sun’s movement again and again? I have already mentioned above, why Allah was mistaken about the Sun’s movements. Now dishonest Mullahs are claiming that this is science here. I wonder why Allah has to mention about the Sun’s 225 million year journey to tell about day and night? What does the Sun’s movement have to do with the day and night?

Earth is Spread Out Like a Carpet​

Quran-15:19: And the earth We have spread out (like a carpet); set thereon mountains firm and immovable;
Quran-78: 6-7: Have We not made the earth as a wide expanse, And the mountains as pegs (anchor)? Allah was sure that the Earth is flat like a carpet and that mountains are there to anchor the earth so that the Earth does not shake with us. Allah is really an excellent scientist.

Here in this Verse, Allah Challenges People: Who Can Tell Whether the Conceived is Male or Female?
Quran-31:34: Verily the knowledge of the Hour is With God (alone). It is He Who sends down rain, and He who knows what is in the wombs of mothers….
Who does not believe the fact that, actually mankind can predict very accurately (99.5%) when rain will fall and can predict (99.8%) the sex of the child inside a mother’s womb? Scientists also predict that, in the next five years weather predictions will be successfully correct almost 100%. Perhaps Allah could not imagine this.

B. Some Embryological contradictions/errors​

Man is Created From Clotted blood?
Quran-23:14: Then fashioned We the drop (semen) a CLOT OF CONGEALED BLOOD then fashioned We the clot a little lump (fetus), fashioned We the little lump into bones, then clothed the bones with flesh, and then produced it another creation. So blessed be Allah, the Best of Creators.
(Bengali translations of the Quran read: “Zamaa’t Raokto theeke Manoosh banieesi” And this Ayat has been repeated again and again throughout the Quran)
Quran-75:38: Then he becomes a CLOT; then (Allah) shaped and fashioned…
Quran-96:2: Created man, out of a mere clot of congealed blood
There are serious scientific problems here:
A blood clot can not grow into anything. This idea came from the Greeks. Aristotle erroneously believed that humans are originated from the action of male semen upon female menstrual blood, which is absolutely an incorrect assumption. The Quran’s assertion on the clot (alaqa) is completely wrong about human development, since there is absolutely no stage during which the embryo consists of a clot. The only situation in which an embryo might appear like a clot is during a miscarriage, in which case the clotted blood which is seen to emerge (much of which comes from the mother) is solidified and by definition no longer alive. Therefore, if ever an embryo appeared to look like a clot it would never develop any further into a human; it would be a dead mass of bloody miscarriage.
Since Prophet Muhammad (pbuh) had some thirteen wives it is entirely possible that he would be very familiar with miscarriages. Modern science tells us that the formation of human embryo is a seamless continuation from conception to birth, hence there are no hard-and-fast boundaries of stages as the Quran described. The Quran described 4 stages which matches exactly with Galenic description of the development of the human embryo (which was proved wrong by modern science).
Creation of bones and clothing of bones with flesh: According to modern embryologists including Prof. Moore of Canada, the tissue from which bone originates, known as mesoderm, is the same tissue as that from which muscle (flesh) develops. Thus bone and muscles begin to develop simultaneously, rather than sequentially (as the Quran tells us). Moreover, most of the muscle tissue that we human have is laid down before birth, but bones continue to develop and calcify (strengthen with calcium) right into one’s teenage years. So it would be more accurate if the Quran had said that muscles started to develop at the same time as bones, but completed their development earlier.
The idea that bones are clothed with flesh is not only scientifically completely wrong/false, but was directly copied from the ancient Greek doctor Galen’s hypothesis. Also, the idea of saying: “made into bones and clothed the bones with muscle” came from the technique of making animal statues (Moorthy) out of rod and cement or mud. People usually make the skeleton (out of rod or stick) first and, then cover it up with cement or mud. This is scarcely a scientific description of embryonic development. It is rather a description of a layman.

E. Self-contradictory Quranic verses​

Which one is correct:
Quran-2:256: There is no Compulsion in religion….
OR

Quran-9:29: Fight those who do not profess the true faith (Islam) till they pay the polltax (jiziya) with the hand of humility.
Quran-9:5: Then, when the sacred months have passed, slay the idolaters wherever ye find them and take them captive, and besiege them and prepare for them each ambush….
Quran-47:4: When you meet the unbelievers in the Jihad strike off their heads….
Quran-2:191: And slay (kill) them wherever ye catch them, and turn them out from where they have turned you out such is the reward of those who suppress faith.
Quran-8: 65: O Apostle! Rouse the believers to the fight…(against) unbelievers.

Very often apologetics claim that, Islam is a religion of peace and there is no compulsion. Yet, punishment of an apostate in Islam is, of course, the death penalty.

In Many Ayats Allah Claimed That, He Has Given the Quran in Easy and Clear Language​

Quran-44:58: Verily, We have made This Quran easy in the tongue, in order that they may give heed.

No matter which translation of the Quran we read, the Quranic materials remain the same to us and every sentence is self-explanatory. It does not take a rocket scientist to comprehend the message Allah wanted to transmit for Arabs. Yet, bigoted Mullahs will always blame translators for Quranic contradictions/errors/inconsistencies etc. and will try to find lame excuses to cover up Allah’s ignorance.
Comments: The Holy Quran is full of inaccuracies, contradictions, inconsistencies, redundancies, a lack of chronologies or chapters, grammatical errors etc. One can find hundreds of contradictions/errors/inconsistencies in the Holy Quran and the above mentioned ayats are just selected samples from the Quran. But still it is a miracle to those who are blindfolded bigots. “The mind of a bigot is like the pupil of the eye; the more light you pour upon it, the more it will contract.”- Oliver Wendell Holmes
Special note: Quranic ayats were taken from Maulana A. Yousuf Ali’s English translations of Holy Quran. Maulan Yousuf Ali’s translations are internationally accepted as authentic & unbiased. Some of the recent Quranic translation has biased interpretations and word changing (pick & choose) to match with the utopia of science in Quran. Readers may be informed that, the Quranic translation by Maulana A. Yousuf Ali is considered most reliable & Authentic by most Islamic Scholars throughout the world. Hadiths were taken from Bukhari Sharif (Sahih).

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Syed Kamran Mirza was born in a Muslim family of Bangladesh. After having Ph.D. in Biological science he worked as a teacher in the University in Bangladesh for a period of 12 years, now lives in USA. He is the author of the book, “Roots of Islamic Terrorism” published in 2004. And also authored more than 200 articles scrutinizing in various aspects of Islam, some of which have been published in the reputed journals. He can be reached at Mirza.syed@gmail.com
The full collection of inconsistencies and contradictions written by Syed Kamran Mirza can be found here


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