Wana sayansi waanza kukukbali uwepo wa Mungu

[Mtangoo]

Kuzimu ni wapi? Ulishawahi kufika? Unaweza kuthibitisha kwamba kupo?

With all due respect you are too dumb to understand that information like DNA needs intelligence. Your mind cannot accept things that it cannot see if it cannot accept the seen.

Dumb on purpose!

Its not strange to me as God knew of your presence and used his apostle Peter to warn us believers:

Knowing this first, that there shall come in the last days scoffers, walking after their own lusts, And saying, Where is the promise of his coming? for since the fathers fell asleep, all things continue as they were from the beginning of the creation. For this they willingly are ignorant of, that by the word of God the heavens were of old, and the earth standing out of the water and in the water: Whereby the world that then was, being overflowed with water, perished: But the heavens and the earth, which are now, by the same word are kept in store, reserved unto fire against the day of judgment and perdition of ungodly men.

So it does not bother me to see scoffers like Kiranga and the co.
They Just prove the Bible to be God's Word!

 

[Mtangoo]

Mtangoo. Kama sikosei utakuwa Mtani wangu, Mjukuu au Mtoto wa Mchungaji Mtangoo.

Correct.... Mtani! 🙂

Hii habari huwa inaleta utata sana. Kusema tu uamini inakuwa ngumu sana na hasa ukiangalia viongozi wenyewe wa dini mambo wanayoyafanya siku hizi na hasa Wakatoliki ambao inapokuja kwenye dini, wameshika SIRI nyingi sana kama siyo zote za dini.

Sijajua siri gani wakatoliki walizoficha, hapa utusaidie unachojua ila kuna vitu unaamini inakuwaje ngumu hii ya uwepo wa kuzimu? mbona unaamini ndege ikipaa itashuka? Mbona unaamini kesho dunia itaendelea kuwa ilivyo na sio kwamba utajikuta mawinguni? Sio kila kitu lazima uone ndio uamini. Kosa walilofanya Adam na mkewe ni kum-doubt Mungu. Na shetani anatumia same old trick kuwatoa watu kwenye reli.

Kitu cha pili Ukatoliki na Ukristo sio kitu kimoja. Yesu alipoondoka aliacha kanisa. Utasikia stori nyingi lakini ukweli ndio huo. Yesu hakuacha Ukatoliki (Uprotestant au anything else for that matter) bali kanisa. Na kanisa msingi wake ni Biblia. Kwa hiyo anything nje ya biblia bila kujali kimesemwa na Ukatoliki (au u protestant et al) ni uongo!

Hawa jamaa nimekuja kuwaogopa na kuwaheshimu sana. Mfano mdogo ni Piramidi zilizopo duniani na jinsi zilivyojengwa na sehemu zilipojengwa, nyingi hazijajengwa kwa kubahatisha. Zipo pale kwa malengo maalumu.

Hapa labda utusaidie ulichogundua. Mapiramidi yalijengwa na Wamisri, na sijajua hapa wakatoliki wanaingiaje. Maelezo zaidi ni muhimu!

Ila labda tu mie huwa nakubaliana na wale wanaosema "Heri ufe ukiamini Mungu, usipomkuta, huna ulichokosa kuliko ukafa na kukuta kweli Mungu yupo."

No! No! No!
Kuna ushahidi wa kutosha Mungu ameweka ili watu wasiwe na imani ya upofu kama hii.
DNA, Human brain, Galaxies, et al zinatosha kwa mwenye akili timamu kujua kuna Muumba. Biblia imejaa unabii na mambo ya kisayansi ambayo kila mwenye akili timamu atajua hakuna namna isipokuwa Mkono wa Muumba. Na kubwa kuliko yote Mungu mwenyewe alitutembelea katika utu wa Kristo akafa kwa ajili yetu ili tusiende huko ila kuna watu kwa kiburi chao na kujifanya all knowing wataenda tu!

Ila sasa hivi Kuzimu si haipo? Inasubiri hadi Yesu arudi ndiyo watu wenye dhambo wapelekwe kule? Au mie naelewa vibaya hii sehemu?

Unachanganya kuzimu na ziwa la moto (Hell and Lake of fire). Ni sehemu mbili tofauti. Ni kama holding cell na Final destination!

 

[Mtangoo]

Hii hadithi nzima imekaa kilokole-lokole ​

Hadithi za kilokole zipo katika biblia na sio magazeti na mitandao!
​

 

[Mtangoo]

I have always learnt alot from Kiranga, and still i'm taking lots of pieces from him...

Being an atheist or having agnoistic perspectives doesn't directly mean that the certainty of god's presence is absolutely nothing, sio kwamba najaribu kushikamana na Kiranga, so far what i'm doing is just trying to show what we're to axpect from him/her....

Its seems you don't know who these people are:
1. Atheist is a person who profess (absolutely) that God does not exists. Greek grammar where theist (from theos) derives adds a to show negation. So atheos is a no God position. So its an absolute statement and not what you try to paint

2. Agnostic is someone who does not know if God is there. Deriving from greek gnosis which means knowledge, again a is a negation which means no knowledge. So agnostic says I don't know if there is a God.

So if you are an atheist you need to prove your proposition that for sure no God exists. and If agnostic, you will be stupid to argue He does not exist for sure while your position says I don't know!

 

[Asprin]

Its seems you don't know who these people are:
1. Atheist is a person who profess (absolutely) that God does not exists. Greek grammar where theist (from theos) derives adds a to show negation. So atheos is a no God position. So its an absolute statement and not what you try to paint

2. Agnostic is someone who does not know if God is there. Deriving from greek gnosis which means knowledge, again a is a negation which means no knowledge. So agnostic says I don't know if there is a God.

So if you are an atheist you need to prove your proposition that for sure no God exists. and If agnostic, you will be stupid to argue He does not exist for sure while your position says I don't know!

Asprin says thank you Stefano Mtangoo for this useful post.

Amen.

 

[Mtangoo]

Asprin says thank you Stefano Mtangoo for this useful post.

Amen.

Umenikumbusha enzi za Thank you kabla ya hizi like 🙂

 

[Kiranga]

With all due respect you are too dumb to understand that information like DNA needs intelligence. Your mind cannot accept things that it cannot see if it cannot accept the seen.

Dumb on purpose!

Its not strange to me as God knew of your presence and used his apostle Peter to warn us believers:



So it does not bother me to see scoffers like Kiranga and the co.
They Just prove the Bible to be God's Word!

Hujajibu maswali. Umeyaepa tu.

Mimi naomba majibu wewe unanihubiria, wapi na wapi?

 

[Sikonge]

Miaka kadhaa nyuma kama sita hivi, kulikuwa na vifo vya mara kwa mara vya samaki wakubwa wa bahari na hakuna aliyejua sababu. Ila cha ajabu kila vikitokea vifo, serikali za nchi husika walikuwa wa kwanza kufika na wakiwa wamejiandaa na vifaa. Na walihakikisha hakuna ushahidi. Sababu imekuja kugundulika ni kuwa walikuwa wanawauwa Serena (Samaki mtu) ili kutoharibu imani iliyowekwa na kanisa kuwa tuliumbwa na si kuwa tumebadilika kwa evolution.

Habari ya PYRAMID ni ndefu na nilishawahi kuiweka hapa. Ila ngoja nikuwekee mwenyewe Video uangalie na mwisho ndiyo utajua kwa nini nasema Wakatoliki wameficha siri nyingi sana za dunia hii na hata nje ya dunia. Wakati kabila la Dogoni la Mali wanasifiwa kuwa wajuzi wa nyota na anga kwa miaka mingi, nafikiri wakatoli wanacheka tu. Hata vitu kama Pi kwenye hesabu yaani 3.14 imetokea kwenye Pyramid na vitu vingine vingi sana.

Kila la kheri uangaliaji wa film tatu...............

Nyongeza ukiweza:

Correct.... Mtani! 🙂
Sijajua siri gani wakatoliki walizoficha, hapa utusaidie unachojua ila kuna vitu unaamini inakuwaje ngumu hii ya uwepo wa kuzimu? mbona unaamini ndege ikipaa itashuka? Mbona unaamini kesho dunia itaendelea kuwa ilivyo na sio kwamba utajikuta mawinguni? Sio kila kitu lazima uone ndio uamini. Kosa walilofanya Adam na mkewe ni kum-doubt Mungu. Na shetani anatumia same old trick kuwatoa watu kwenye reli.

 

[paparazzi]

Its seems you don't know who these people are:
1. Atheist is a person who profess (absolutely) that God does not exists. Greek grammar where theist (from theos) derives adds a to show negation. So atheos is a no God position. So its an absolute statement and not what you try to paint

2. Agnostic is someone who does not know if God is there. Deriving from greek gnosis which means knowledge, again a is a negation which means no knowledge. So agnostic says I don't know if there is a God.

So if you are an atheist you need to prove your proposition that for sure no God exists. and If agnostic, you will be stupid to argue He does not exist for sure while your position says I don't know!

Mkuu Labda hukunielewa vizuri, rudi nyuma uisome tena...

Having atheistic/theistic introspections doesn't qualify to conclude the existance/nothingless about deities...Hapa simaanishi wewe/kiranga mpo kwenye right/crook prognosis....
ukifuatilia vizuri huu uzi utagundua kua most admit that Kiranga is foolish to assert with certainty that there's no god/God, then what's the defference between a believer(you) and an atheist(kiranga) in a manner that non among you has the evidence on existance of god, non of you can figure out the sort of god that you believe/not believe to exist....

Still i'm a companion of kiranga, i'll certainly say that the existance of god that mean a reasonable defination of term, is pretty low, and the probability that there is god that is anything like the major world religion propose is even smaller and smaller...
-prove wrong my thesis...

 

[Kiranga]

Mkuu Labda hukunielewa vizuri, rudi nyuma uisome tena...

Having atheistic/theistic introspections doesn't qualify to conclude the existance/nothingless about deities...Hapa simaanishi wewe/kiranga mpo kwenye right/crook prognosis....
ukifuatilia vizuri huu uzi utagundua kua most admit that Kiranga is foolish to assert with certainty that there's no god/God, then what's the defference between a believer(you) and an atheist(kiranga) in a manner that non among you has the evidence on existance of god, non of you can figure out the sort of god that you believe/not believe to exist....
Still i'm a companion of kiranga, i'll certainly say that the existance of god that mean a reasonable defination of term, is pretty low, and the probability that there is god that is anything like the major world religion propose is even smaller and smaller...
-prove wrong my thesis...

Kiranga hasn't asserted with certainty that there is no god. Moreover, and more generally, he is on record for umpteen umpteen times saying one cannot prove a negative.

Had he done so (asserted with certainty that there is no god), he wouldn't have asked believers to prove the existence of god.

The fact that he has asked gives room for a change to his view. The change cannot be made because no compelling case for the existence of god has been made.

 

[NullPointer]

Kitu cha pili Ukatoliki na Ukristo sio kitu kimoja. Yesu alipoondoka aliacha kanisa. Utasikia stori nyingi lakini ukweli ndio huo. Yesu hakuacha Ukatoliki (Uprotestant au anything else for that matter) bali kanisa. Na kanisa msingi wake ni Biblia. Kwa hiyo anything nje ya biblia bila kujali kimesemwa na Ukatoliki (au u protestant et al) ni uongo!
!

Ahsante sana kwa kusema hii statement, kungekua na sehemu ya kuweka like zaidi ya moja ningeweka ka buku hivi, watu hua wanakimbilia ohh Yesu aliacha ukatoliki, ohh sijui nini, ila wanasahau the main point uliyoitaja, It all start from the bible, hapo ndipo the true church can be built. Tatizo linakuja sasa kila mtu na tafsiei yake ya neno lililoandikwa, ndipo shetani anaanza kucomplicate maisha

 

[Rapture Man]

Why did this all powerful god let lucifer did this to his (god's) own creation?

If an all powerful, all knowing and all capable god can let this happen, isn't that his will?

Who am I tobend it and try to act different?

Kiranga, you have asked a good question. You have hit the mark! And that's why I am convinced that you are so close to experiencing the God of Jesus Christ (not the god of Pasco). It may still take long but I do not care how much long it will take. What is good is that you are already in the right path towards the knowledge of the true God. You are searching for TRUTH!

It's very true that Satan has blinded us. It's also true that God gave Satan the power to blind us, and therefore, as you questioned, it’s the will of God that Satan blinds us (Luke 4:5-6 [SUP]5[/SUP] And the devil…shewed unto him all the kingdoms of the world in a moment of time. [SUP]6[/SUP] And the devil said unto him, All this power … is delivered unto me…).

But it's also true that God, through Jesus Christ, has immense power to un-blind us, to make us see, to make us experience His (God’s) presence to the extent that we are sure that God exists.

I anticipate that your next question could be, 'why did God allow Satan to blind us and then send Jesus Christ to un-blind us, to make us see again?’ Why?'

The answer is simple. Satan is a very powerful creature and he blinded us using all his satanic power, but God gave Jesus all power and authority and sent Him (Jesus) to come and un-blind us. Jesus came to destroy the works of the devil (1 John 3:8.. the Son of God was manifested, that he might destroy the works of the devil). God did this with one aim; He wanted to make a show of His Power (Romans 9:17… For the scripture saith unto Pharaoh (an image of Satan), Even for this same purpose have I raised thee up, that I might shew my power in thee, and that my name might be declared throughout all the earth ).

God wanted to display His Power, to make His Power known to Satan, Demons, Holy Angels and to Man.

God gave power to Satan to bind us, blind us, captivate us, hurt us, etc, so that God can use His Divine Power to destroy Satan’s power over us and in the end, destroy (not to kill) Satan himself and his demons.
And when Satanic power over our individual lives is destroyed then we will know experientially how powerful God is!

And when God has fully destroyed the powers of Satan and all his demons over Humanity, then all the demons, holy angels and man will bow before God, falling prostrate before God, saying Oh Lord God Almighty, You alone are God!

And when God sends Jesus to un-blind you, God will prove to you to be a merciful, gracious and powerful Being.

Therefore do not struggle in your war against sin, just do your best; and where you fail, God forgives you because He is merciful, gracious and slow to anger (Exodus 34:6-7 6 And the Lord passed by before him, and proclaimed, The Lord, The Lord God, merciful and gracious, longsuffering, and abundant in goodness and truth, 7 keeping mercy for thousands, forgiving iniquity and transgression and sin).

 

[Truth guy.]

Do not be overwhelmed by persons such as kiranga,coz by doing so you'll have most of your deeply wasted,such men don't believe in the existence of God,so whtever you do to make them discern the reality,is actually crazy on them,until they die,hence revealation will be revealed at last!

 

[Pascal Mayalla]

Kiranga, you have asked a good question. You have hit the mark! And that's why I am convinced that you are so close to experiencing the God of Jesus Christ (not the god of Pasco). It may still take long but I do not care how much long it will take. What is good is that you are already in the right path towards the knowledge of the true God. You are searching for TRUTH!

It's very true that Satan has blinded us. It's also true that God gave Satan the power to blind us, and therefore, as you questioned, it's the will of God that Satan blinds us (Luke 4:5-6 [SUP]5[/SUP] And the devil…shewed unto him all the kingdoms of the world in a moment of time. [SUP]6[/SUP] And the devil said unto him, All this power … is delivered unto me&#8230😉.

But it's also true that God, through Jesus Christ, has immense power to un-blind us, to make us see, to make us experience His (God's) presence to the extent that we are sure that God exists.

I anticipate that your next question could be, 'why did God allow Satan to blind us and then send Jesus Christ to un-blind us, to make us see again?' Why?'

The answer is simple. Satan is a very powerful creature and he blinded us using all his satanic power, but God gave Jesus all power and authority and sent Him (Jesus) to come and un-blind us. Jesus came to destroy the works of the devil (1 John 3:8.. the Son of God was manifested, that he might destroy the works of the devil). God did this with one aim; He wanted to make a show of His Power (Romans 9:17… For the scripture saith unto Pharaoh (an image of Satan), Even for this same purpose have I raised thee up, that I might shew my power in thee, and that my name might be declared throughout all the earth ).

God wanted to display His Power, to make His Power known to Satan, Demons, Holy Angels and to Man.

God gave power to Satan to bind us, blind us, captivate us, hurt us, etc, so that God can use His Divine Power to destroy Satan's power over us and in the end, destroy (not to kill) Satan himself and his demons.
And when Satanic power over our individual lives is destroyed then we will know experientially how powerful God is!

And when God has fully destroyed the powers of Satan and all his demons over Humanity, then all the demons, holy angels and man will bow before God, falling prostrate before God, saying Oh Lord God Almighty, You alone are God!

And when God sends Jesus to un-blind you, God will prove to you to be a merciful, gracious and powerful Being.

Therefore do not struggle in your war against sin, just do your best; and where you fail, God forgives you because He is merciful, gracious and slow to anger (Exodus 34:6-7 6 And the Lord passed by before him, and proclaimed, The Lord, The Lord God, merciful and gracious, longsuffering, and abundant in goodness and truth, 7 keeping mercy for thousands, forgiving iniquity and transgression and sin).

Mkuu Rapture, kuna mengi wengi wasiojua kuhusu Mungu na shetani especially the source of Godly powers and satanic powers!.
The Almighty God, Father, Alfa and Omega has powers over and above Satan, but...
Pasco .

 

[Rapture Man]

Mkuu Rapture, kuna mengi wengi wasiojua kuhusu Mungu na shetani especially the source of Godly powers and satanic powers!.
The Almighty God, Father, Alfa and Omega has powers over and above Satan, but...
Pasco .

Wakuu, Pasco and Kiranga, Christ the Lord, is a very great and terrible King. With the passage of time He is able to do whatever He wants to do. I am not talking of the weak and crucified Christ the messiah. No! I am talking of the resurrected, glorified King of kings. I know He can do all things as time passes. And you know? this terrible King Jesus, is at the same time, as harmless and gentle as a dove, and when your eyes are opened to see how gentle the Lord Jesus is, your heart will break and you will give Him everything!

He is more humble, more gentle, than an infant child! He is harmless! I love this Man, Jesus Christ!
Truth guy., I can share with Kiranga and Pasco because I know the Lord Jesus has no limits. He touched and changed lives of the deepest and real satanists and atheists. He can touch these guys as well, in His time!

 

[Ishmael]

Braggadocios non theists are spewing despicable atrocities.

 

[Kiranga]

Wakuu, Pasco and Kiranga, Christ the Lord, is a very great and terrible King. With the passage of time He is able to do whatever He wants to do. I am not talking of the weak and crucified Christ the messiah. No! I am talking of the resurrected, glorified King of kings. I know He can do all things as time passes. And you know? this terrible King Jesus, is at the same time, as harmless and gentle as a dove, and when your eyes are opened to see how gentle the Lord Jesus is, your heart will break and you will give Him everything!

He is more humble, more gentle, than an infant child! He is harmless! I love this Man, Jesus Christ!
Truth guy., I can share with Kiranga and Pasco because I know the Lord Jesus has no limits. He touched and changed lives of the deepest and real satanists and atheists. He can touch these guys as well, in His time!

Maswali yangu ya msingi hayajajibiwa.

Kwanza, kama kuna mungu mjuzi wa yote, muweza yote na mwenye upendo wote, imekuwaje mpaka akaruhusu ulimwengu wenye mabaya kama huu uwepo?

Na usiseme shetani, shetani naye ni kiumbe cha mungu ambaye kabla mungu hajamuumba alimjua nyendo zake mwanzo mwisho.

In fact, kwa mujibu wenu, hata uwezo wa mabaya kufanyika umeumbwa na mungu.

Kwa nini? Kwa nini mungu alipokuwa anaumba ulimwengu akaweka mabaya?

Je, mungu hakuweza kuumba ulimwengu usio mabaya?

Kama hakuweza, je, ni kweli kwamba mungu anaweza kila kitu?

Na la, kama aliweza kuumba ulimwengu usio mabaya ila hakutaka/ hakujali tu, ni kweli ana upendo wote huo tunaomsema anao?

Sijaona majibu ya maswali haya.

Badala ya mahubiri, ungesaidia mjadala zaidi kwa kujibu maswali haya, tafadhali.

 

[messsi]

Si kweli.

Kuna magaidi wanajilipua na kuua waziwazi kwa sababu wanaamini mungu.

Na kuna watu safi tu ambao hawaamini mungu hawali hata nyama kwa kuwa dhamiri zao haziwaruhusu kula kiumbe chenye damu kama binadamu.

Kuna wtawa wa kikatoliki wanaomuamini mungu na kuvifanya vitoto mambo mabaya.

Kuna watu wasioamini mungu ambao wametoa maisha yao kusaidia ulimwengu.

Usiwe so simple kusema kwamba eti kuamini mungu ndiyo kutenda mema na kutoamini mungu ni kutenda mabaya.

Unaposema kuna watu safi una maanisha nini ? safi kwa perspective ipi au kwa kulinganisha na nini ? ukishakubali kuwa kuna usafi na ubaya basi jua kabisa kuna sheria una obey au imani inayotenganisha hivo vitu viwili ... kwa hiyo sentensi yako tu ina justify kwamba kuna muumba ambaye alitenganisha ubaya na uzuri ...

 

[lucriss]

Ina mana kuzimu iko kilomita 14 tu kutoka hapa duniani???

 

[Kiranga]

Unaposema kuna watu safi una maanisha nini ? safi kwa perspective ipi au kwa kulinganisha na nini ? ukishakubali kuwa kuna usafi na ubaya basi jua kabisa kuna sheria una obey au imani inayotenganisha hivo vitu viwili ... kwa hiyo sentensi yako tu ina justify kwamba kuna muumba ambaye alitenganisha ubaya na uzuri ...

Watu safi kama wasiotaka kulipua wengine kwa jina la mungu for starters.

Sheria inayowaongoza ni kwamba hawataki kulipua wengine kwa sababu wao hawataki kulipuliwa na wengine.

Huhitaji kuamini mungu ili kujua kwamba kama kila mtu hatamlipua mwenzake, hakuna atakayekulipua wewe.

Sentensi yangu haija justify kuwapo kwa muumba vyovyote, labda wewe umekolea bias ya kuwapo kwa muumba tangu ukiwa mtoto kiasi kwamba mtu akikwambia mwanadamu anaweza kutumia logic tu kufikiri kwamba kama kila mtu hatamlipua mtu wingine yeyote, na yeye hatalipuliwa, utaona sheria ya muumba sehemu ambayo kuna sheria ya binadamu.