Mkataba (MoU) kati ya Serikali na Kanisa Katoliki na Taasisi nyingine za Kidini

[Kaunga]

Mimi, gotta problem with that?

 

[Prof Griff]

Na aliyesaini Memorandum of Understanding kati ya Serikali na Aghakhan Foundation ni nani? Na kati ya Serikali na Hindi Community kuhusiana na huduma za hospitali za Apollo ni nani (jibu soma habari chini)? Na aliyesaini Memorandum of Understanding kati ya Serikali na madhehebu ya Waislamu wa Sunni na Shia ni nani?

Apollo inks Tanzania's first MoU for PPP in health sector

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[TD]Apollo will provide expertise, machinery for 350-bed super speciality hospital in the Milimani city of Dar es Salaam[/TD]
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Taking Indo-African bilateral relations to the next level, Indian healthcare major Apollo Hospitals and the Tanzanian health ministry today signed the African nation's first memorandum of understanding (MoU) for public private partnership (PPP) in the health sector.
According to the agreement, Apollo Hospitals would provide expertise and machinery for a 350-bed super speciality hospital in the Milimani city of Dar es Salaam, while the Tanzanian government would provide the land and bear the construction costs, Blandina S J Nyoni, Tanzania's health secretary, told Business Standard
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The MoU was signed in the presence of Prime Minister Manmohan Singh and Tanzanian President Jakaya Mrisho Kikwete today, at the end of the first Indo-Tanzania bilateral summit on Tanzanian soil. Apollo Hospitals Chairman, Prathap C Reddy, who flew down to the port city to sign the agreement, told Business Standard, "The Tanzanian government is giving a lot of importance to the health sector. This is a key area, not just in Africa, but also in other parts of the world. We would be happy to expand our presence in Africa." The total expenditure for the Apollo Hospitals project is estimated at $60 million.
China is currently building a heart institute in the National Hospital in Tanzania, with a grant of $63 million, while South Korea is helping in setting up a medical college in the country. "We chose to do it ( Milimani's super-speciality hospital) with India, since we have a long-term relation with India," said Blandina S J Nyoni.
President Jakaya Mrisho Kikwete said the project would help Tanzania in capacity building and reduce its expenditure on sending patients for treatment abroad.
"Currently, we spend $8 million every year to send our citizens abroad for treatment. Now, we are trying to build local capacities", he said. However, he also mentioned China's "generous" help in building the 200-bed heart wing in National Hospital.
Bangalore based Vigyan Education Foundation had set up the first private medical and technological university in Tanzania. The university was also the first private university in Tanzania.
For Apollo Hospitals, this would be its first hospital in Africa. "We have helped in some other ways in the healthcare sector, but this is the first time we would be running a hospital," Reddy told Business Standard. President Jakaya Mrisho Kikwete, in his speech, said he expected five more such hospitals to be set up by Apollo in various parts of the country, including Zanzibar.

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[arigold]

 

[Mr.Right]

Nimejaribu kuiangalia hii sign, inaonesha ni Edward Lowassa. Is that correct?

 

[WomanOfSubstance]

Mimi, gotta problem with that?

Hata mimi nilitaka kuuliza swali kama hili. Kwani ajabu hapo iko wapi? MoU ni makubaliano kuwa na uelewa wa pamoja kwamba Taasis fulani itatoa huduma fulani katika muktadha fulani na hapa kwa mfano, hizo taasis za "kanisa' zitatoa huduma kufuatana na makubaliano hayo. Serikali nayo imekubali kufanya mambo fulani kama namna ya mashirikiano.Hizo huduma kwani haziwasaidii wenye imani tofauti? Ni lini taasis zenu nyie mnaokereketwa na hii MoU zilikataliwa kusaini MoU na serikali?

Mbona Serikali ina saini MoU n akila taasis inayoshiriki katika kusaidia kufanya kazi au kutoa huduma? Mbona hamuulizi MOU za serikali na UN, Bilaterals kama NORAD, SIDA etc?
Au kwa vile hapa kuna "udini"? Hebu tuache mambo mepesi tujadili issues nzito.Huu udini unakuwa kama ajenda ya siri ya kuleta machafuko hasa ukizingatia wengi wa watanzania bado ni wageni sana wa modalities mbalimbali za namna serikali inavyofaya kazi kushirikiana na taasis zisizo za kiserikali.

 

[Mzee Mwanakijiji]

Tatizo ni kwanini Serikali imeingia makubaliano na Kanisa; kwa maoni ya watu inaonesha kuwa Serikali inapendelea makanisa. Kwa baadhi ya watu haijalishi kama mambo ya MoU ni ya kawaida au haijalishi kama serikali inafanya hivyo kwa taasisi nyingine hata ziwe za Kihindu au Kiislamu au mashirika mengine yasiyo ya kiserikali. Haijalishi. Tatizo ni kuwa kanisa limeingai makubaliano hayo. Na utaona kuwa watu hawataki kuangalia kabisa kuwa ilipofanyika Rais alikuwa ni Muislamu - hata hilo halijalishi.

Kuna msemo kwamba ni kujaribu kutengeneza kimbunga kwenye kikombe cha chai!

 

[Sooth]

Huo ndiyo ukweli

Kama tunakuwa na rais wa nchi (sio TFF) ambaye waziri wake au mtu aliyemteua anaridhia mkataba unaopelekea mabilioni ya fedha za umma zielekezwe kwenye taasisi 'zisizostahili' kupata fedha hizo, tena bila ridhaa ya rais, basi hapo tatizo ni rais na sio waziri au mtu mwingine yeyote. Kama Rais Mwinyi asingeafiki, alikuwa na mamlaka ya kuuvunja mkataba na kumwajibisha aliyesaini, lakini hakufanya hivyo. Vile vile, hata marais waliofuatia na watakaokuja wana mamlaka ya kikatiba ya kuvunja hiyo MoU kama wanaona ilikuwa ni kosa kwa serikali kufanya hivyo, la sivyo wao ndo wanastahili lawama.

Hata mtu anayeilalamikia hiyo MoU kichinichini ana matatizo maana mahakama zipo,nenda mahakamani kama raia wa TZ na upinge hiyo MoU-mbona Mtikila ameweza kwenye suala la mgombea binafsi? Rais wetu pia ni msikivu, peleka kilio chako kwake, kama kuna mantiki utasikilizwa.

 

[Maarko]

Hakuna cha kujadili hapa,hizi ni chokochoko za UDINI hazitatusaidia tujadili uchumi wa nchi yetu inavyo anguka kwa kasi ya ajabu!

 

[Haki]

Hata mimi nilitaka kuuliza swali kama hili. Kwani ajabu hapo iko wapi? MoU ni makubaliano kuwa na uelewa wa pamoja kwamba Taasis fulani itatoa huduma fulani katika muktadha fulani na hapa kwa mfano, hizo taasis za "kanisa' zitatoa huduma kufuatana na makubaliano hayo. Serikali nayo imekubali kufanya mambo fulani kama namna ya mashirikiano.Hizo huduma kwani haziwasaidii wenye imani tofauti? Ni lini taasis zenu nyie mnaokereketwa na hii MoU zilikataliwa kusaini MoU na serikali?

Mbona Serikali ina saini MoU n akila taasis inayoshiriki katika kusaidia kufanya kazi au kutoa huduma? Mbona hamuulizi MOU za serikali na UN, Bilaterals kama NORAD, SIDA etc?
Au kwa vile hapa kuna "udini"? Hebu tuache mambo mepesi tujadili issues nzito.Huu udini unakuwa kama ajenda ya siri ya kuleta machafuko hasa ukizingatia wengi wa watanzania bado ni wageni sana wa modalities mbalimbali za namna serikali inavyofaya kazi kushirikiana na taasis zisizo za kiserikali.

Vitu viwili tofauti umezungumza. Bilateral agreement ni tofauti kabisa na hii memorandum of understanding ilivyosaigniwa. Hii inazungumzia Serikali ya TZ kuipatia funds Kanisa ktk uendeshaji wake.
Ktk Katiba ya TZ, serikali inatakiwa isiwe ina upendeleo wowote na dini yoyote au taasisi yoyote ya kidini. Sasa huoni kama hii memorandum inavunja katiba ya nchi?

 

[Haki]

Tatizo ni kwanini Serikali imeingia makubaliano na Kanisa; kwa maoni ya watu inaonesha kuwa Serikali inapendelea makanisa. Kwa baadhi ya watu haijalishi kama mambo ya MoU ni ya kawaida au haijalishi kama serikali inafanya hivyo kwa taasisi nyingine hata ziwe za Kihindu au Kiislamu au mashirika mengine yasiyo ya kiserikali. Haijalishi. Tatizo ni kuwa kanisa limeingai makubaliano hayo. Na utaona kuwa watu hawataki kuangalia kabisa kuwa ilipofanyika Rais alikuwa ni Muislamu - hata hilo halijalishi.

Kuna msemo kwamba ni kujaribu kutengeneza kimbunga kwenye kikombe cha chai!

Je ni haki ya serikali kufanya hivi kisheria kwa mujibu wa Katiba ya nchi? Hapa naona Serikali imevunja katiba ya nchi.

 

[WomanOfSubstance]

Vitu viwili tofauti umezungumza. Bilateral agreement ni tofauti kabisa na hii memorandum of understanding ilivyosaigniwa. Hii inazungumzia Serikali ya TZ kuipatia funds Kanisa ktk uendeshaji wake.
Ktk Katiba ya TZ, serikali inatakiwa isiwe ina upendeleo wowote na dini yoyote au taasisi yoyote ya kidini. Sasa huoni kama hii memorandum inavunja katiba ya nchi?

Ili hoja yako iwe na mashiko na mantiki basi rejea pia post number 9 hapo juu kisha mhoji zote na siyo hii tu!

 

[Mzee Mwanakijiji]

Kutoka Aga Khan Development Network:

The Aga Khan Development Network (AKDN) and its institutional predecessors have had a presence in Tanzania and Zanzibar for more than a century, starting with the establishment of the first Aga Khan Girls School in Zanzibar in 1905. In recognition of AKDN's commitment to the country, an Agreement of Co-operation was signed with the Government of the United Republic of Tanzania in 1991. The Agreement was subsequently revised and endorsed in 2001, and today enables AKDN to contribute significantly to Tanzania's development agenda.

Magazeti yaliripoti hivi kuhusu makubaliano hayo, na unaweza ukapima kilichokubaliwa kati ya serikali na Makanisa na kati ya Serikali na Aga Khan ni kipi kinanguvu zaidi:

[SIZE=-1][SIZE=-1]By JAINDI KISERO in Dar es Salaam - August 17, 2001
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[SIZE=-1][SIZE=-1]The Aga Khan yesterday signed an agreement with the government of Tanzania, granting enhanced diplomatic status to the Aga Khan Development Network (AKDN) which manages and co-ordinates the group's social and economic development programmes.[/SIZE] [/SIZE]
[SIZE=-1][SIZE=-1]The agreement was signed between President Benjamin Mkapa and the Aga Khan at a high profile ceremony at State House Dar es Salaam.[/SIZE] [/SIZE]
[SIZE=-1][SIZE=-1]Until yesterday, relations between the parties were governed by a "co-operation accord" last signed in 1991.[/SIZE] [/SIZE]
[SIZE=-1][SIZE=-1]AKDN's new status means the organisation and its staff will enjoy limited diplomatic privileges.[/SIZE] [/SIZE]
[SIZE=-1][SIZE=-1]The network's economic activities are carried out by the Aga Khan Foundation for Economic Development (AKFED) and its affiliate, Tourism Promotion Services, and financial companies in Asia and Africa.[/SIZE] [/SIZE]
[SIZE=-1][SIZE=-1]AKFED and associated companies control assets in excess of $750 million.[/SIZE] [/SIZE]
[SIZE=-1][SIZE=-1]Speaking after the ceremony, the Aga Khan, spiritual leader of the Ismaili community worldwide, said the new co-operation agreement would make it possible for the group to conceptualise long term programmes and to look at its engagement in the country more strategically.[/SIZE] [/SIZE]
[SIZE=-1][SIZE=-1]"Building institutions in Africa is a long term commitment for us," he said, describing Aids as a major threat to Africa's development and promising greater involvement by the group in assisting institutions involved in educating the public on the risks of the scourge.[/SIZE] [/SIZE]
[SIZE=-1][SIZE=-1]Viewed here as one of the largest contributors to the recovery of Tanzania's tourism, yesterday's event also signified the government's recognition of the group's role in the revival of the country's principal foreign exchange earner.[/SIZE] [/SIZE]
[SIZE=-1][SIZE=-1]Since 1996, the Serena Group has brought to the marketplace five new international tourist class hotels and lodges and a luxury tented camp in the leading wildlife parks in Northern Tanzania.[/SIZE] [/SIZE]
[SIZE=-1][SIZE=-1]Spurred by currency reforms and encouraged by the confidence of international lending institutions, Tanzania's tourism industry has witnessed phenomenal vibrancy in the last four years, with foreign exchange receipts galloping from $570 million in 1998 to $733 million in 1999.[/SIZE] [/SIZE]
[SIZE=-1][SIZE=-1]During the same period, tourism arrivals rose from 482,331 to 623,325, a whopping 30 per cent increase in only one year.[/SIZE] [/SIZE]
[SIZE=-1][SIZE=-1]The itinerary of the Aga Khan's visit includes a visit to Zanzibar today where he will tour the group's investments in the tourism industry. [/SIZE][/SIZE]
[SIZE=-1][SIZE=-1]Mkapa, Aga Khan sign pact to boost public services [/SIZE][/SIZE]
[SIZE=-1][SIZE=-1][SIZE=-1]By Joyce Mkinga - August 17, 2001
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[SIZE=-1][SIZE=-1][SIZE=-1] President Benjamin William Mkapa and His Highness Karim Aga Khan, the spiritual leader of the Shia Ismaili, yesterday signed a co-operation agreement for development that further enhances the collaboration between the Aga khan Development Network (AKDN) and Tanzania.
Under the agreement which was signed at the State House in Dar es Salaam, Tanzania will co-operate with the Agakhan Development Network in areas of health, education, tourism and culture.[/SIZE][/SIZE][/SIZE]
[SIZE=-1][SIZE=-1][SIZE=-1] A statement issued after the signing ceremony said the agreement is a successor agreement of the Accord of Co-operation for Development signed on July 1991, relating to the socio-economic and cultural development in Tanzania.[/SIZE][/SIZE][/SIZE]
[SIZE=-1][SIZE=-1][SIZE=-1] "In order to facilitate AKDN work in Tanzania, the government will permit the network to formalise the establishment of a mission in the country and facilitate the optimal utilisation of resources for the Network's development objective," the statement said.[/SIZE][/SIZE][/SIZE]
[SIZE=-1][SIZE=-1][SIZE=-1] New endeavours envisaged under the agreement include major tertiary education initiatives and plan by the Aga Khan University Institute for Education Development to establish a Professional Development Centre for teachers and managers of educational institutions in collaboration with the Aga Khan Foundation and Aga Khan Education Services.[/SIZE][/SIZE][/SIZE]
[SIZE=-1][SIZE=-1][SIZE=-1] Speaking at the signing ceremony, the Aga Khan said Tanzania was one of the countries of absolute priority because of its many opportunities for co-operation.[/SIZE][/SIZE][/SIZE]
[SIZE=-1][SIZE=-1][SIZE=-1] "Investing in your intelligentsia is an absolute priority," he said, highlighting the importance to Tanzania's future of its human resources.[/SIZE][/SIZE][/SIZE]
[SIZE=-1][SIZE=-1][SIZE=-1] "Much of Africa and Asia have suffered from very poor high quality tertiary education since decades. We would like to be able to assist you," he observed.[/SIZE][/SIZE][/SIZE]
[SIZE=-1][SIZE=-1][SIZE=-1] The Aga Khan said there is need for an extensive private public collaboration in Africa of all agencies functioning in the health care field to address HIV/AIDS which is the major threat to development in Africa.[/SIZE][/SIZE][/SIZE]
[SIZE=-1][SIZE=-1][SIZE=-1] He said Aga Khan Development Network, in collaboration with international agencies and governments, is trying to assist those who are already in difficulty but particularly also in educating people about the risks.[/SIZE][/SIZE][/SIZE]
[SIZE=-1][SIZE=-1][SIZE=-1] Culture was an asset which needed to be developed and cherished and therefore a programme to link southern Tanzania regions and Mozambique will boost not only tourism linkages but also cultural understanding of the two countries, he said.[/SIZE][/SIZE][/SIZE]
[SIZE=-1][SIZE=-1][SIZE=-1] President Mkapa commended the co-operation between his government and Aga Khan Development Network since its insertion.[/SIZE][/SIZE][/SIZE]
[SIZE=-1][SIZE=-1][SIZE=-1] He said investments from the network have gone a great way to underlining the good climate for economic investment in the country especially in education and tourism.[/SIZE][/SIZE][/SIZE]
[SIZE=-1][SIZE=-1][SIZE=-1] " I look forward to strengthening this kind of co-operation with us, you are not only supporters but real partners to our development efforts," he said.[/SIZE][/SIZE][/SIZE]
[SIZE=-1][SIZE=-1][SIZE=-1] The AKDN, among other things, undertakes different projects in the country such as the provision of education, health services, tourism, industry development, environment management and rehabilitation of historical artifacts.[/SIZE][/SIZE][/SIZE]
[SIZE=-1][SIZE=-1][SIZE=-1] The Aga Khan Development Network is a group of private, non-denominational development agencies and institutions with specific mandate that range from health and education to rural development, culture, architecture and the promotion of private sector enterprise.[/SIZE][/SIZE][/SIZE]
[SIZE=-1][SIZE=-1][SIZE=-1] Working in more than 20 countries the agencies and institution working together, seek to empower communities and individuals often in disadvantaged circumstances to improve living conditions and opportunities especially in Africa and Asia.[/SIZE][/SIZE][/SIZE]
[SIZE=-1][SIZE=-1][SIZE=-1] Today, the Aga Khan is schedule to meet President Aman Abeid Karume and Chief Minister, Shamsi Vuai Nahodha in Zanzibar. [/SIZE][/SIZE][/SIZE]

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[SIZE=-1][SIZE=-1][SIZE=-1]Mkapa atiliana saini mkataba Imamu Aga Khan

Na Mwandishi Wetu - August 17, 2001
Source: IPP Media

[SIZE=-1] Rais Benjamin Mkapa na Mheshimiwa Imamu Aga Khan, wa madhehebu ya Ismailia wametiliana saini mkataba wa ushirikiano katika miradi ya kimaendeleo inayolenga kuendeleza mahusiano yaliyokuwepo kati ya Mtandao wa Maendeleo wa Aga Khan na Tanzania.[/SIZE][/SIZE][/SIZE][/SIZE]
[SIZE=-1][SIZE=-1][SIZE=-1][SIZE=-1] Kwa mujibu wa taarifa iliyotolewa jijini Dar es Salaam mkataba wa ushirikiano ulifikiwa baada ya mkutano wa Rais na Mheshimiwa Imamu uliofanyika jijini jana.[/SIZE][/SIZE][/SIZE][/SIZE]
[SIZE=-1][SIZE=-1][SIZE=-1][SIZE=-1] Kwa mujibu wa taarifa hiyo katika makubaliano hayo mtandao wa Aga Khan umeruhusiwa kukamilisha rasmi uanzishwaji wa ofisi ya shughuli zake nchini kwa lengo la kuhakikisha kuwa shughuli , malengo na madhumuni ya mtandao yanatekelezwa kikamilifu.[/SIZE][/SIZE][/SIZE][/SIZE]
[SIZE=-1][SIZE=-1][SIZE=-1][SIZE=-1] Kwa mujibu wa taarifa hiyo baadhi ya masuala yanayoazimiwa katika mkataba huo mpya ni pamoja na kutoa elimu ya juu ya uuguzi kupitia mpango wa mafunzo ya uuguzi wa Chuo Kikuu cha Aga Khan.[/SIZE][/SIZE][/SIZE][/SIZE]
[SIZE=-1][SIZE=-1][SIZE=-1][SIZE=-1] Iliongeza kuwa Chuo Kikuu cha Aga Khan kitaanzisha kituo cha taaluma ya maendeleo cha walimu na viongozi waendeshaji wa taasisi za elimu nchini.[/SIZE][/SIZE][/SIZE][/SIZE]
[SIZE=-1][SIZE=-1][SIZE=-1][SIZE=-1] Mpango huo utafanywa kwa ushirikiano wa Aga Khan Foundation na Aga Khan Education Services.[/SIZE][/SIZE][/SIZE][/SIZE]
[SIZE=-1][SIZE=-1][SIZE=-1][SIZE=-1] Mtandao wa maendeleo wa Aga Khan unajumuisha muungano wa taasisi na vyombo binafsi unatoa huduma katika sekta za afya na elimu, hadi maendeleo vijijini, utamaduni, usanifu, majengo na uendelezaji wa sekta binafsi.[/SIZE][/SIZE][/SIZE][/SIZE]
[SIZE=-1][SIZE=-1][SIZE=-1][SIZE=-1] Rais Mkapa kwa mujibu wa taarifa hiyo alipongeza kazi za mtandao huo akisema umetoa huduma bora na kwamba miradi yake ya uwekezaji imekuwa kielelezo cha mazingira mazuri ya uwekezaji wa kiuchumi nchini.[/SIZE][/SIZE][/SIZE][/SIZE]
[SIZE=-1][SIZE=-1][SIZE=-1][SIZE=-1] Pamoja na kushukuru rais alisema : alisistiza."tunatarajia ushirikiano huu utazidi kuimarika na kuendelezwa" ."Ninyi si tu wafadhili bali washika dau madhubuti katika harakati zetu za maendeleo,".[/SIZE][/SIZE][/SIZE][/SIZE]
[SIZE=-1][SIZE=-1][SIZE=-1][SIZE=-1] Kwa upande wake Mheshimiwa Aga Khan alizungumza umuhimu wa rasilimali za Tanzania na kusema "kuwekeza katika elimu ni kipaumbele chetu kikubwa,". [/SIZE][/SIZE][/SIZE][/SIZE]
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[Haki]

Kama tunakuwa na rais wa nchi (sio TFF) ambaye waziri wake au mtu aliyemteua anaridhia mkataba unaopelekea mabilioni ya fedha za umma zielekezwe kwenye taasisi 'zisizostahili' kupata fedha hizo, tena bila ridhaa ya rais, basi hapo tatizo ni rais na sio waziri au mtu mwingine yeyote. Kama Rais Mwinyi asingeafiki, alikuwa na mamlaka ya kuuvunja mkataba na kumwajibisha aliyesaini, lakini hakufanya hivyo. Vile vile, hata marais waliofuatia na watakaokuja wana mamlaka ya kikatiba ya kuvunja hiyo MoU kama wanaona ilikuwa ni kosa kwa serikali kufanya hivyo, la sivyo wao ndo wanastahili lawama.

Hata mtu anayeilalamikia hiyo MoU kichinichini ana matatizo maana mahakama zipo,nenda mahakamani kama raia wa TZ na upinge hiyo MoU-mbona Mtikila ameweza kwenye suala la mgombea binafsi? Rais wetu pia ni msikivu, peleka kilio chako kwake, kama kuna mantiki utasikilizwa.

Mawaziri wengi wa TZ ndiyo wanasign hii mikataba. Kuhusu Rais kuridhia, lazima ujue Rais anashauriwa na mawaziri wake.

 

[Bigirita]

MM hujaeleweka hapa, kanisa linapendelea kanisa?
Napata shida kuelewa mantiki ya watu wanaolalamikia MoU hii. Mbona hawalalamiki huduma zitolewazo na taasisi hizo kama hospitals?

 

[WomanOfSubstance]

Je ni haki ya serikali kufanya hivi kisheria kwa mujibu wa Katiba ya nchi? Hapa naona Serikali imevunja katiba ya nchi.

Usikimbilie kutumia nguvu kubwa sana kwa kitu kidogo. Hamna sheria iliyokiukwa hapo.

Katiba haijavunjwa..labda uonyeshe kifungu kipi cha Katiba.

Ingekuwa huduma hizo zinatolewa kibaguzi basi hapo Katiba inayopinga ubaguzi wa aina yoyote ingekuwa imekiukwa. ( Pls refer definition of discrimination na pia Bill of Rights in the Constitution).

 

[Haki]

Usikimbilie kutumia nguvu kubwa sana kwa kitu kidogo. Hamna sheria iliyokiukwa hapo.

Katika haijavunjwa..labda uonyeshe kifungu kipi cha Katiba.

Kanisa ni taasis ya kidini, ambayo itapewa funds kiundeshaji na serikali ya TZ. Sasa Katiba ya nchi inasema serikali isiwe na upendeleo na taasisi yoyote ya kidini. Sasa huoni kama Katiba ya nchi imevunjwa hapo?

Hizo agreement ulizokuwa unasema ni Aga Khan. Aga Khan haitegemei funds kutoka serikali ya TZ ktk uendeshaji wake.

 

[Haki]

MM hujaeleweka hapa, kanisa linapendelea kanisa?
Napata shida kuelewa mantiki ya watu wanaolalamikia MoU hii. Mbona hawalalamiki huduma zitolewazo na taasisi hizo kama hospitals?

Tatizo siyo utolewaji wa hizo huduma. Tatizo hizo huduma zinahudumiwa na fedha ya serikali, sasa kama ni za public kwa nini ziwe za upande mmoja tu?

 

[WomanOfSubstance]

Vitu viwili tofauti umezungumza. Bilateral agreement ni tofauti kabisa na hii memorandum of understanding ilivyosaigniwa. Hii inazungumzia Serikali ya TZ kuipatia funds Kanisa ktk uendeshaji wake.
Ktk Katiba ya TZ, serikali inatakiwa isiwe ina upendeleo wowote na dini yoyote au taasisi yoyote ya kidini. Sasa huoni kama hii memorandum inavunja katiba ya nchi?

Ndugu yangu..nakuomba tena unisome vizuri na unielewe.Nimesema "Bilateral Donors, signing MoU"! Sijazungumzia "bilaterla agreements" hizi ni dhana mbili tofauti japo muktadha ni ule ule.

 

[WomanOfSubstance]

Kanisa ni taasis ya kidini, ambayo itapewa funds kiundeshaji na serikali ya TZ. Sasa Katiba ya nchi inasema serikali isiwe na upendeleo na taasisi yoyote ya kidini. Sasa huoni kama Katiba ya nchi imevunjwa hapo?

Hizo agreement ulizokuwa unasema ni Aga Khan. Aga Khan haitegemei funds kutoka serikali ya TZ ktk uendeshaji wake.

Tatizo lako ni "fedha" au nyenzo kuelekezwa nje ya serikali?

Sijui kama unaelewa kwamba Serikali inaweza kutoa fedha au nyenzo nyingine na kuzipa taasis zisizo za serikali zikiwemo FBOs na NGOs katika kutoa huduma au hujui hilo?
Mfano utakaokupendeza labda ni ule wa Serikali kutoa Majengo ya VETA Morogoro ili kuwapa Waislamu kuanzisha University. Hili nalo hulijui/ Mbona hakuna anayelalama kiasi hiki?

 

[Twasila]

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