Special Thread: Yanayojiri Mgogoro wa Ukraine na Urusi. Nini chanzo na hatma ya mzozo?

Bwana Utam · Apr 17, 2022

Nkerebhuke said:
Nimenote point zako muhimu lakini ntatofautiana na wewe kwenye kipengere cha kupunguza casaulities ambao ni civilian, vita ina sheri zake na askari wanaopelekwa front wanapewa rule of engagement. Russia ametumia mpaka ( cluster bombs ) haya ni mabomu mtawanyiko. Haya mabomu yakitua chini yanasambaa yaani bomb moja liki explode danger area ni heka moja. Kuna mashumbilizi mengine anafanya yanaharibu miundombinu ya raia kama yale yaliyopiga hodi ya wazazi. Vita huwezi kufanya random offensive bila kujali Raia, kama jeshi la Russia lingekuwa sophisticated wangehalibu command na control power la jeshi la ukraine na kuwafanya wasilimu amri, lakini kwa mwenendo wa ( battle mtaani ) kashafeli. Haya ni maoni tu

Unaweza ukawa upo sahihi MKUU lakini baadhi ya picha zilionesha kabisa maeneo yakiraia kunakua na vifaa vita ilikua lazima vishambuliwe
Maana majeshi hayawezi yakaona kuna bomu zinatokea kwenye kanisa kuwashambulia halaf wao waziangalie kwakigezo chakwamba eti ninyumba za ibada hii hapana
Hili la cluster cjui ndio nn hili pia nililiona juu ya hili no koment
Huko kwengine RUSSIA kajitahid sana sana sanaa kuepusha vifo na hasara kwa RAIA ila kama ujuavyo lazima ilikua wengine wafe maana huwezi ukasema usiue RAIA halaf usiue hata mmoja eidha kwabahati mbaya ama kwamazingira yaliopo wakati wakushambulia

Econometrician · Apr 17, 2022

Nyamizi said:
Upo sahihi kabisa,hili balaa kajitengenezea mwenyewe na hatokaa atulie kamwe.Watamsumbua sana,Putin anakuja kuwaachia matatizo watakaofuatia baada yake kutawala Russia.

Imeanza ramli,matatizo yatakuwepo ndani ya Ukraine maana upinzani utaongezeka mara dufu-na hivyo amisha anza kuwaweka ndani viongozi wa upinzani ndio anachochea moto

Keyboard_Warrior · Apr 17, 2022

kilama said:
Yaani ninyi mnafikiriaga CIA ndio kila kitu na wao tu wenye nguvu hapa duniani.

Nani kama CIA? Hakuna.
Acha ubishi!!!

Nkerebhuke · Apr 17, 2022

kajekudya said:
Kwahiyo kuwakaribisha NATO ndiyo uhuru mkuu. Lakini pia uhuru una mipaka yake. Wakati unafurahia uhuru wako hakikisha haumuathiri mtu mwingine. Unatumia uhuru wako kuwakaribisha mhasimu(Majambazi) ya jirani yako kwako halafu unategemea jirani yako akae kimya.
NATO wanainga'ng'ani Ukraine si kwakuwa wanaipenda Ila kwakuwa inawasaidia kumsogelea karibu Russia na kumuwezesha kumtanyia intimidation Russia kirahisi

Brother bila kufanya double standard Russia pia ni aggressive nation. Angalia kwa mizani sawia Ukraine pia ana haki ya kujilinda kama taifa lenye heshima na uhuru wake. Stalin alichowafanya kama hawawezi kusahau vifo vya watu million nne kwa njaa sio mchezo. Kumbuka Russia alishawahi kuivamia Poland akishikiana na Germany. Russia with its military supremacy aliivamia afighanistan kilichotokea wote ni mashahidi. Tunapaswa kuwa neatral coz ili kujifunza geopolitics vizuri

Keyboard_Warrior · Apr 17, 2022

wa kupuliza said:
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Huyo mwamba mwenye kikofia chekundu upande wa kushoto, kwa jinsi alivyoshika tu hiyo bunduki nimegundua ni Mtanzania!!!

Mathanzua · Apr 17, 2022

Mwanamkiwi said:
katika post #30,403 hujaleta chochote cha maana. Umenakili kitu bila kutaja chanzo chako, ambacho ni batili. Nani alitoa tahadhari hiyo?
Ningehisi inaweza kuwa mmoja ya tovuti hizi za Kimarekani zinazofanya biashara kwa kutangaza fujo ili wapate clicks kwa matangazo ya kibiashara kwenye kurasa zao. Au umepata wapi?

Hakuna haja ya kubishana,nimesema believe what you want to believe.Tusubiri,usiwe na haraka,baada ya muda itakuwa wazi who really fired the missile which sank the Moskva and whether the missile contains nuclear material or not.

njumu za kosovo · Apr 17, 2022

bwii said:
The chance to give up arms for Azov nazis holed up in Azovstal has expired and the corridors were closed a few hours ago. Russian Air Force, including the nuclear capable Tu-22M3 have started bombing the Azovstal this afternoonView attachment 2190862

Dadadek unaambiwa mtu katambaa kama mtoto au ndo miondoko ya kivita hiyoo😂😂 Putin ongeza kidoogo

Bome-e · Apr 17, 2022

Nyamizi said:
Kuzamishwa kwa meli ni petty issue? Wewe huwezi jua maumivu ya Putin katika hili

Ni petty issue kwasababu mnakomaa sana kuliko hata aliyepata hasara!Ukijiuliza thamani ya hiyo meli na thamani aliyopoteza Russia kutokana na sunctions Bado utaona Meli sio msiba mkubwa kama pro NATO mnavyoshupaza shingo!

Mwanamkiwi · Apr 17, 2022

Mathanzua said:
Hakuna haja ya kubishana,nimesema believe what you want to believe.Tusubiri,usiwe na haraka,baada ya muda itakuwa wazi who really fired the missile which sank the Moskva and whether the missile contains nuclear material or not.

Bila shaka, ila huwezi kuonyesha wapi ulichota madai yako? Naona si tabia nzuri kuleta vitu na kuficha chanzo.

Mtoto wa nzi · Apr 17, 2022

Bwana Utam said:
Heheeee
Mtaongea lugha zote ila muhimu lengo la RUSSIA linaenda kufikiwa nshakuna kitakachotokea wakati jojia anapelekewa faya yalisemwa zaidi ya haya ila malengo yalifikiwa namaisha yanaendelea
RUSSIA sio ZIMBABWE

Wameongea kikolosai, kikorinto, Kilawi.. Watamaliza lugha za biblia zote watakuja kuongea mpaka kindamba kenge Hawa...

Nkerebhuke · Apr 17, 2022

Bwana Utam said:
Unaweza ukawa upo sahihi MKUU lakini baadhi ya picha zilionesha kabisa maeneo yakiraia kunakua na vifaa vita ilikua lazima vishambuliwe
Maana majeshi hayawezi yakaona kuna bomu zinatokea kwenye kanisa kuwashambulia halaf wao waziangalie kwakigezo chakwamba eti ninyumba za ibada hii hapana
Hili la cluster cjui ndio nn hili pia nililiona juu ya hili no koment
Huko kwengine RUSSIA kajitahid sana sana sanaa kuepusha vifo na hasara kwa RAIA ila kama ujuavyo lazima ilikua wengine wafe maana huwezi ukasema usiue RAIA halaf usiue hata mmoja eidha kwabahati mbaya ama kwamazingira yaliopo wakati wakushambulia

Point, kwanza naomba radhi kuna sehemu nilikujibu shombo am sorry. Vita bila kupika propaganda nzuri ina matokeo mabaya sana na yakuhuzunisha. Nakupa mfano, wakati jwtz wamevifurusha vikosi vya amini jeshi lilipewa majukumu mapya ya kuingia Uganda na kumn'goa idd Amini, baada vikosi kushumbulia na ketaka mji wa mbalala walilipa kisasi najua hapa umenielewa. Bro vifo vingine vya raia vya raia vinaweza kutokana na visasi, kwa mazingira yanavyoonekana jeshi na Raia wote wako vitani kulinda nchi hapo vikosi vya russia vinapata changamoto kusonga mbele, Kuna baadhi ya convoy zilikuwa zinazuiwa na raia. Kama wewe ni mwanajeshi umetumwa kwenye hii vita kudead ni njenje tu, na unaweza kupata tatizo la kisaikolojia maana unaweza kupewa order kushambulia raia. Kuna sauti za
makamanda wa Russia wanatoa oder ( kill them for the *** sake).

NYUNDO YA MOTO · Apr 17, 2022

Mathanzua · Apr 17, 2022

Mwanamkiwi said:
Bila shaka, ila huwezi kuonyesha wapi ulichota madai yako? Naona si tabia nzuri kuleta vitu na kuficha chanzo.

Chanzo kipo,siwezi kupika taarifa kama hiyo,ila because of your uncouth behaviour sikupi.Najua hata nikileta utasema chanzo hakiaminiki.Najua watetezi wa psycopaths wa the West walivyo.Dialogue closed.

NYUNDO YA MOTO · Apr 17, 2022

Footage from Mariupol: soldiers of the DNR battalion "Somalia" went to the sea.

Together with the Russian military, they continue to liberate the city from the nationalists. The battalion raised its flag over the building of the main department of the local police.

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NYUNDO YA MOTO · Apr 17, 2022

Another 160 people, including 24 children, were evacuated from Mariupol to Bezymennoe, the DPR reported.

RO7 ZA MGOS · Apr 17, 2022

baba-mwajuma said:
Wananchi baadhi wapo pia ambao hawampendi, ukraine imegawanyika hata kabla Urusi hawajaingia. Huyo raisi ana damu nyingi sana mikononi mwake.

Exactly kuna sehem majeshi ya urus yanashangiliwaa balaa ndani ya Ukraine kila wakipita ....nmeona kwenye media flan ..ktu huwez kuskia au kuona BBC,CNN, etc

Keyboard_Warrior · Apr 17, 2022

triga said:
Tunatofautiana perspective

Ukr kutoka kwenye upande wa Russia wana option mbili. Eidha wakubaliane na matakwa ya kremlin au waipoteze hii vita kwa mauaji na uharibifu. Eitherway lzm matakwa ya kremlin pale ukr yafikiwe. Ukr anaweza kufanya maamuzi sahihi ya kukubaliana na matakwa ya kremlin akaepusha mauaji na uharibifu.

Zelensky kaja na option ya 3. ameamua kutokukubalia na Kremlin akiwa na hope atashinda. Maamuzi mazuri isipokuwa tu kushinda ni ngumu sana.

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Mwanzoni nilikua nalizungumzia sana hili, kwanini upigane vita ambavyo unajua kabisa hauwezi kushinda?

NYUNDO YA MOTO · Apr 17, 2022

At a meeting with Russian Ambassador Alexander Botan-Kharchenko, the Serbian President thanked for the congratulations on his victory in the elections and noted that Belgrade would continue to maintain friendly relations with Moscow.

NYUNDO YA MOTO · Apr 17, 2022

In Serbia, they called it an unfriendly step in the supply of weapons by the UK to the Kosovo Albanians.

“You cannot arm terrorists and hope for peace. I am very worried, ”RIA Novosti quotes the head of the Serbian Ministry of Internal Affairs Alexander Vulin.

He stressed that the only goal of Kosovo's rapprochement and integration into NATO is "to provoke Serbia."

Earlier, Večernje Novosti reported that London had donated 50 Javelin ATGMs and NLAW ATGMs to Pristina. According to the publication, it is also planned to train Kosovo fighters to manage these systems.
Galip Sr

NYUNDO YA MOTO · Apr 17, 2022

Estonia has closed access to its ports for Russian ships since Sunday.

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