Special Thread: Yanayojiri Mgogoro wa Ukraine na Urusi. Nini chanzo na hatma ya mzozo?

Special Thread: Yanayojiri Mgogoro wa Ukraine na Urusi. Nini chanzo na hatma ya mzozo?

Omary - Msamalia said:
[emoji23][emoji23][emoji23][emoji23] Unakili kweli Ndugu yangu?

Kifaru kimoja tu unavokiona ni Karibu na zaidi ya Billion 14 ya Tanzania na vingine ni Zaid hata mara 5.

Unaiona Ile Meli iliyozama?, Ni zaidi ya Billion 100 ya Tanzania...

Unaona yale makombora yote yanayotumika ni mamia ya mamilioni yanateketea Kila saa...

Zile Ndege zinazongushwa ni mamia ya Mabilioni ya fedha, Kila inarushwa kwenda Kufanya mashambulizi inatumia mamilioni ya Mafuta.

Mwaka 2014 jeshi la Tanzania lilitumia 20K kwa Kila Kuruta kwa Kila Siku ya Mungu, now fikiria mwaka 2022 Russia itatumia kiasi gani kwa Askari kamili?

Asilimia 40-60 ya gesi na Mafuta ya Urusi yanauzwa Ulaya ambayo inataka kuondokana na Utegemezi wake mwisho wa mwaka huu kwa zaidi ya 80%

India na China ndio watumiaji wengine wakubwa wa Fossil fuels lakini India anunua only less than 5% ya Mafuta ya Russia....

Please mkiwa mnatoa hoja muwege na some common senses, hakuna faida ya Kutumia pesa nyingi kupigana vita visivyo vya maana ukasema unapata Hasara ndogo uta recover...

Yaani una akili timamu Karne ya 21 unaenda kuvamia nchi unasema unaenda kuwalinda watu wanaongea Lugha Yako
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Wee jamaa,
Hivi billion 14 unaijua au unajisemesha TU[emoji848]

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Wewe ndo mwongo wameojiwa na video tumeona mpaka kwa rafiki zako BBC.
Mwanamkiwi said:
nimefuatilia kidogo habari hii. Kama kawaida Mathanzua ana mwaga copy-paste yake bila kujali uwezekano wala ukweli (jinsi hufanya mara kwa mara - kumbuka hadithi zake za "Khazarian Mafia")

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Did Russia Capture Canadian General Cadieu In Azovstal?! | Tech ARP​


Posted by Dr. Adrian Wong

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Did Russian forces capture Canadian Lieutenant General Trevor Cadieu in the cellars of Azovstal, in Mariupol, Ukraine?!
Take a look at the viral claim, and find out what the facts really are!

Claim : Russia Captured Canadian General Cadieu In Azovstal!​

Pro-Russian websites, Chinese netizens and the Chinese 50 Cent Army (wumao, 五毛) are claiming that Russia just captured a high-ranking Canadian general.
According to “rumours”, Lieutenant General Trevor John Cadieu was captured while he was trying to escape from the besieged Azovstal metalworks in Mariupol, Ukraine.
General Trevor Cadieu (Trevor John Cadieu), captured by Russian troops while trying to escape from the cellars of Azovstal, was the commander of the Canadian Ground Forces, APA reports citing Mailbd.
Seated in the catacombs under the Mariupol steel plant “Azovstal” nationalists staged a provocation, trying to hide the Canadian general’s attempt to escape. After the capture of a high-ranking foreign soldier by units of the RF Armed Forces, it became clear why so many efforts were made to save him.
A high-ranking mercenary tried to break out of the encirclement at Azovstal several times. It was for this that the West insisted on humanitarian corridors for the exit of civilians: among them, foreign specialists had to leave the catacombs.
Did Russia Capture Canadian General Cadieu In Azovstal?!

This Chinese example even claimed that NATO lost 5-6 helicopters and a ship trying to get General Cadieu out of Azovstal.
A lot of rumors that Russia has captured a Canadian general trying to escape thru sewer tunnels. Could be a few more NATO military advisers still in the plant
They have spent losing 5 or 6 helicopters and 1 ship trying to get the VVIP out.

No Evidence Russia Captured Canadian General Cadieu In Azovstal!​

Bearing in mind that it is impossible to prove that something does not exist (Russell’s teapot), I can safely say that there is NO EVIDENCE that Russian forces actually captured Canadian general Trevor Cadieu in Azovstal.
In fact, here are the reasons why it is virtually impossible for Russia to have captured him in the Azovstal metalworks in the besieged city of Mariupol.
Fact #1 : Trevor Cadieu Retired From Canadian Armed Forces
Trevor Cadieu was originally slated to take command of the Canadian army in September 2021, but his appointment was suspended amidst “historical allegations” of sexual misconduct at the Royal Military College in 1994.
He then resigned and left the Canadian armed forces on 5 April 2022, stating :
I have opted to release (from the Canadian military) and am exploring other opportunities to contribute to the greater good.
Fact #2 : He Volunteered In Ukraine As A Private Citizen
After his retirement from the Canadian Armed Forces (CAF), several defence sources say that Cadieu travelled to Ukraine to volunteer against the Russian invasion.
This was in his personal capacity, as he had already retired from the CAF, and was now a private citizen.
Defence Department spokesman Daniel Le Bouthillier said, in a statement :
There has been no CAF support, material or otherwise, given to Cadieu since his departure as it pertains to his personal endeavours.
As he is now a private citizen, it would be inappropriate for us to comment further on his personal plans.
Read more : Did Russia Capture US General Roger Cloutier In Mariupol?!
Did Russia Capture Canadian General Cadieu In Azovstal?!
Warrant Officer Terry Vandenberghe discusses observation and reporting positions with Brigadier-General Trevor Cadieu (right) in Williams Lake, B.C., during Operation LENTUS 17-04 on August 3, 2017. (Photo: Master Corporal Malcolm Byers, Wainwright Garrison Imaging)
Fact #3 : Russia Surrounded Mariupol Since 17 March 2022
While no one really knows where Cadieu is right now, it would be quite impossible for him to enter Mariupol, after his retirement on 5 April 2022.
That’s because Mariupol was amongst the first Ukrainian cities to be attacked by Russian forces that completely surrounded it three weeks into the war.
There was no way for Ukrainian civilians and soldiers to leave Mariupol, and no way for anyone to get into the city after it was completely surrounded on 17 March 2022.
By the time Cadieu resigned, the Russians had already captured most of Mariupol, except the massive Azovstal steel plant. It would literally take a miracle for Cadieu to get into the Azovstal plant.
Read more : Secret NATO Headquarters Under Azovstal Exposed?!
Russian siege of Mariupol
How Russian forces besieged Mariupol. Credit : BBC
Fact #4 : Cadieu Would Be Useless In Mariupol
Even if it was possible to smuggle him into Mariupol in early April, it would also be illogical to insert Cadieu into a besieged city where he can do little good.
Cadieu is a retired general whose days of firing guns from the trenches are long past. In fact, he would be more of an impediment in the defence of the Azovstal steel plant.
He would be far more useful strategising Ukraine’s defence, or acting as a military liaison with the Canadian government.
Fact #5 : Russians Would Have Paraded Captured Cadieu
If Russian forces did indeed capture Cadieu, they would have paraded him on Russian TV, just like they did with two British volunteers they captured – Shaun Pinner and Aiden Aslin.
Yet the Russians did no such thing. In fact, the only “sources” of these claims are no-name blogs in Russia, China and Azerbaijan, as well as WhatsApp and Telegram groups.
There is simply no evidence of Cadieu being captured by Russian forces, not even a picture.
Shaun Pinner Aiden Aslin captured

Fact #6 : DPR Rep Claims Cadieu Still Holed Up In Azovstal
Official Russian news agency, TASS, reported on 28 April 2022 that Cadieu “may be holed up” in the Azovstal steel plant.
Their source was Eduard Basurin, the spokesman for the People’s Militia of the Donetsk People’s Republic (DPR), who gave no evidence for his claim.
In fact, Basurin appeared to be making up that claim based on the Canadian Defense Ministry announcing that Cadieu was resigning.
Information appeared now and then that one of former Canadian army generals may be holed up there [in the Azovstal steel complex].
He first seemed to get out of sight and then the Canadian Defense Ministry issued a statement that this general gave a notice that he was resigning from the army and moving to Ukraine. Perhaps, it [the UN] is trying to rescue him.
As I pointed out earlier, it would be impossible for Cadieu to be present in Azovstal, unless he went AWOL from the Canadian Armed Forces and entered Mariupol before 17 March 2022.
Also, there were several ceasefires during which civilians managed to escape. Cadieu was not amongst them.
More importantly, Basurin confirmed that Russian forces did not capture Cadieu.
Variants of this FAKE NEWS are now being shared in pro-Russia and pro-CCP websites and groups.
Please help us FIGHT FAKE NEWS by sharing this fact check article out!

Kwa hiyo: Mathanzua fake kama kawaida
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manning said:
Wewe ndo mwongo wameojiwa na video tumeona mpaka kwa rafiki zako BBC.
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Kumbe unaamini kweli Warusi walimkamata jenerali wa Kanada Trevor Cadieu huko Azovstal???
hadi unatumia matusi???
Basi sema:
1) kwa nini Warusi hawakumtangaza (jinsi walivyotangaza wafungwa wengine kutoka nchi za magharibi)???
2) Je kama alikuwa jenerali wa jeshi la Kanada hadi mwanzo wa Aprili - aliwezaje kuingia Azovstal? Maana anaondoka kanada, anasafiri hadi Ulaya (yaani ndege hadi Poland au Uturuki, hakuna ndege tena zinazofika Ukraine), anavuka mpaka kuingia Ukraine, anaelekea Mariupol - anakuta jeshi la Kirusi linalodhibiti mji wa Mariupol isipokuwa eneo dogo la Azovstal - je anapitaje? Anaingiaje ???
3) Alihusika kivipi na maabara ya biolojia kama
a) maishani mwake hakujifunza punje kuhusu habari za biolojia au maabara???
maana utaalamu wake ni kuongoza vikosi vya vifaru, alipofaulu akiwa meja mwaka 2007 huko Afghanistan kiasi kwamba alianza kupanda ngazi haraka na kuwa jenerali.
b) alifika wakati tu mwezi wa Aprili ambako shughuli zote za aina hiyo hazikuweza kutekelezwa tena? Au waliunda maabara hayo tangu mwanzo kwenye vilindi chini ya kiwanda cha feleji???
Basi mtaalamu mkubwa, tuelimishe, utupe mwanga !!!!
 
Jesus Mlokozi said:
Wameanza kukumbuka shuka asubuhi

Europe cannot now refuse Russian gas, says Prime Minister of Greece

"We in Europe know very well that we are not in a position to impose sanctions that will ultimately harm us more than Russia, and Greece insists on this position," Kyriakos Mitsotakis said.

Earlier, the head of the European Council, Charles Michel, said that the EU now has no plans to abandon Russian gas.
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Vyovyote iwavyo lakini ni lazima wanunue kwa Rubo,
Hatutaki ujinga sisi.
 
STRUGGLE MAN said:
Urusi kavumilia sana, hizo zilizojiunga akawa analalamika na kupeleka malalamiko yake UN ni kuonyesha uvumilivu mkubwa sana, sasa kama Ukraine ingejiunga nayo ingelikua ni kuzungukwa na maadui, pia kuna mkataba umevunjwa ndio maana kashindwa kuvumilia, akaona huu utakua ujinga
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Mkataba gani umevunjwa? Ninajua mkataba wa Helsinki wa 1974 ambako Urusi / USSR ilikubaliana na wengine wa Ulaya
1) mipaka ndani ya Ulaya isibadilishwe tena kwa nguvu
2) kila nchi ina haki kuamua yenyewe kama inataka kushirikiana au kutoshirikiana na nchi nyingine.

NATO hakuvamia nchi nyingine za Ulaya. Lakini nchi nyingi ziliogopa Urusi kwa sababu ziliwahi kuvamiwa na Urusi na kuwa koloni au nusukoloni za Urusi. (Kwa nini hakuna anayejua Urusi ilikuwa na himaya kubwa ya ukoloni???). Urusi ilivamia nchi nyingi tangu 1945.

Hivyo nchi nyingi zilizogopa Urusi ziliomba kupokelewa katika NATU na EU. Ni haki yao au hapana?? Je nchi ina haki kupatana wengine umoja wa kuteteana (si kushambulia)??
 
Galip Vrl said:
Hatimae yule Canadian star of Ukrainian propaganda maarufu kama Sniper wali fled to his homeland 🤗

Enzi hizo media zinatwambia “The best sniper in the world”, “immortal soldier” making him a hero of national propaganda na mfano wa kuigwa for all foreign mercenaries.... Sasa karejea nchini kwake 🙌

He is giving interviews that are disappointing for Kyiv.

💥 Katika Interview yake na jarida la "La Presse", Lavigne-Ortiz maarufu kama Wali admitted that he left Ukraine out of fear for his life and a desire to see his family.

💥 Wali swears kua in two months of hostilities he did not kill a single Russian soldier ila ajabu ni media zetu hizi kubwa zilikuwa zinatwambia kua anaua wanajeshi wa Russia 60 kwa siku.... Wali anadai was never on the front line and fired only at the windows of houses "to scare the enemy."

Earlier we wrote hapa kua hapo Ukraine Wali is engaged katika filming za propaganda tu hakuna jipya baadhi ya watu hapa wakaja na matusi ya ziada.

💥 Katika interview hiyo Sniper Wali confirms reports of appalling supply and treatment of foreign fighters.

According to him, the mercenaries had to independently obtain weapons and equipment, huku wakipokea chakula kutoka kwa civilians. Uko nyuma media zikatwambia Russia kaishiwa chakula hivo anaiba kwa Raia...

Anaendelea kusema kua "There are also problems with coordinating actions with the Ukrainian authorities - the officers of the Armed Forces of Ukraine simply do not know how to use mercenaries. Only the best foreigners are recruited by the SBU for special operations."

💥 Wali anaonesha kua disappointed in his journey hapo Ukraine anasema "the fighting in Ukraine is too different from the war in Iraq and Afghanistan"...

"Many volunteers expect it to be safe, but war is the exact opposite, it's a terrible disappointment"

💥 Haiishii hapo tu Wali also talks about the poor training of the Ukrainian army, ambayo significantly inapunguza its combat potential...

Anasema “Ukrainian soldiers suffer very heavy losses from shells and miss many opportunities because they lack technical knowledge."

"If the Ukrainians had the same capabilities with artillery as we have in Afghanistan, we could arrange a massacre.”

💥 Na alipoulizwa kama anataka kurejea tena Ukraine he admits that he still wants to return to Ukraine, but cannot leave his family ha ha ha 😂

Hii fairy tale about Wali, like other myths in the spirit of the “ghost of Kyiv”, turned out to be far from reality... Life liko speed sana.

Ukweli huwa haufichwi bali unacheleweshwa tu.

Mie na wewe tujiulize kama mambo yako hivo na yule Secretary wa NATO anaonya kua "Real Offensive ya Russia" haijaanza bado huku akionya Kyiv Regime wajiandae kwayo... Ikianza itakuaje???

Media are lying... Media are lying... Ukraine hali ni NGUMU ase. They should find alternative kwa hili jambo kuliko kukokea moto kila uchao.
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Uwezo wa wanajeshi wa NATO Huwa unapimwa dhidi ya nchi kama Iraq,Libya, Syria na Afghanistan.
Sio Urusi.
Huyo wali nadhani hawajui "Spetsnaz"
Hawa watu wanahofiwa na NATO yote.

Inasemekana Hawa askari wa Urusi ndio askari wanaopata mafunzo magumu,makali,ya hatari na ya kutishia kabisa hapa duniani.

Hawa askari maalumu kabisa wa Urusi wanaogopeka kabisa hapa duniani kwa uwezo wao.

Ni kwamba katika Vijana makini kabisa w a Urusi,mafano 100 wanaoenda kufanya mafunzo ya Hao Spetsnaz,wanaofaulu na kama watano TU,wengine wanafeli na wengine wanakufa wameumia kama vile kuvunjika viungo na ajali nyingine hivyo wanakua unfit.
Putin aliwahi kutamka kua askari kama Hawa Spetsnaz hawapo mahali popote duniani.

Maandishi wa habari mmoja wa west aliwahi kumuuliza Spetsnaz mmoja kuwa.

"Inasemekana ninyi Spetsnaz Huwa hamsikii maumivu kabisa."?

Huyo Spetsnaz kwanza alicheka,kisha akajibu kwa upole kabisa kuwa,

"Hapana sio kwamba Huwa hatusikii maumivu,Bali tumefundishwa kuyavumilia maumivu..

Hawa Spetsnaz nasikia wanawasaka kwa usongo sana Special forces fulani hivi wa Uingereza wamesikia wako Ukraine.
Wamejichanganya na wanajeshi wa Ukraine.
Hao wa UK nasikia nao ni wanyama balaa.
Sasa sijua mara baada ya taarifa zao kuwa wamo Ukraine kuvuja na kusikia kua wanasakwa,sijui kama hawajasepa.
 
Jesus Mlokozi said:
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🙏THANK YOU NATO🙏

Taken as trophies from the🇺🇦 in the Izyum region.

LPR and DPR are becoming more armed thanks to the WEST...
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Jesus Mlokozi asantt sana kuniletea taarifa ambazo Huwa nazipenda kuliko zote hapa JF kwa Sasa.
Mimi furaha yangu ni kuona silaha za NATO ama zinateketezwa, ama zinakamatwa na watoa huduma wa Urusi.
Hizi ndo habari Huwa napenda.
 
Sikirimimimasikini said:
Russia wameshaziunguza silaha za Marekani huko Ukraine kwenye Stephenie ya treni karibu na mji wa Soledar.

Pia Russia wameteketeza bohari 6 za kuhifadhia silaha za majeshi ya Ukraine (makombora na mizinga) kwenye mikoa ya Luhansk, Donetsk na Kharkiv. Pia Russia wamedungua ndegevita ya Ukraine aina ya SU-25

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Habari za kuyeketezwa,kuteka, ama kuharibu silaha za USA ama NATO ndio habari zinazonibariki sana katika mzozo huu.
Yaani ni kuwatia hasara TU Hawa wakoloni.
 
Mwanamkiwi said:
Kaka malighafi anazo ila uwezo? (Siyo hata Tanzania kuna malighafi?).
Hadi sasa Putin ameleta vifaru vya kale kibao (T72, 80, hata T-64) . Wengine hapa wanadai hajaleta vifaa vipya kwa sababu ataleta baadaye.
Ila naona wengi wanaosema hajaleta kwa sababu hana. Maana vifaru vya T-90M vinasemekana hadi sasa viko chini ya 200 na hivi vipya T-14 Armata viko kwa paredi tu, idadi haizidi 40-50.
Vivyo hivyo ndegevita na roketi. Nimeona taarifa kwamba sasa Putin ameanza kurusha roketi za kushambulia manowari; ambazo zinaweza kulenga shabaha kwenye nchi kavu pia, lakini ni ghali mno. Watazamaji wanahisi sababu ni anaelekea kuishia roketi za cruse missile za kawaida.
Na bado Warossiya wanaogopa kutuma ndege juu ya Ukraine kwa sababu wameshindwa kudhibiti mifumo ya kushambulia ndegevita.
Uwezio ni zaidi kuliko malighafi. Silaha za kisasa zinahitaji eletroniki, ambako Urusi hadi juzi alitegemea kununua chipsi za kompyuta nje.
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Da ila wee jamaa kumbe ni mweupe sana ,ukweli Huwa sisomi komenti zako ila nimeona nijaribu kusoma hii nimegundua kumbe huijui Urusi vizuri.
Nikisema mweupe simaanishi wewe ni mjinga,namaanisha ni mtupu kwenye ufahamu juu ya Urusi.
 
Mwanamkiwi said:
Ameenda kumpa pole mke wa rais. Tena rais aliyechaguliwa na kura nyingi halisi, tofauti na mtu huyu huko Moscow.
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Anampa pole ya Nini Sasa wakti hajafiwa,
Hajashindwa vita ,
Wala hajaumia.

Sisi tulitarajia angeenda kumpa hongera kwa ushindi mnono dhidi ya taifa vamizi,

Maana tumekua tukiaminishwa humu kuwa Ukraine wanashinda,na NATO wanawapa silaha Sasa pole ya Nini kwa mtu anaeshinda?
 
lee van cliff said:
Da ila wee jamaa kumbe ni mweupe sana ,ukweli Huwa sisomi komenti zako ila nimeona nijaribu kusoma hii nimegundua kumbe huijui Urusi vizuri.
Nikisema mweupe simaanishi wewe ni mjinga,namaanisha ni mtupu kwenye ufahamu juu ya Urusi.
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mkosoe kwa hoja , matusi mwisho fb

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lee van cliff said:
Anampa pole ya Nini Sasa wakti hajafiwa,
Hajashindwa vita ,
Wala hajaumia.

Sisi tulitarajia angeenda kumpa hongera kwa ushindi mnono dhidi ya taifa vamizi,

Maana tumekua tukiaminishwa humu kuwa Ukraine wanashinda,na NATO wanawapa silaha Sasa pole ya Nini kwa mtu anaeshinda?
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