Special Thread: Yanayojiri Mgogoro wa Ukraine na Urusi. Nini chanzo na hatma ya mzozo?

[The Sunk Cost Fallacy]

Finland kakataa biti za kijinga za Russia 👇

 

[Galip Veryl]

Waonevu huwa hawadumu rafiki yangu hiyo iko hivyo.

Hivo hivyo kwenye uonevu, so tegemea mwisho wa huu uonevu.

Ngoja tuanze na Chelsea kesho kutwa kwanza[emoji16]

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Hamna kituuu... we size yako mpira tu rafiki yangu haya ya siasa usiyabebe that much moyoni kama huyafaham vizuri.

Unaweza kumchukia asiyestahili na kumpenda asiyestahili. Wanasema as long as ugonvi hujauanzisha bas usiu
shiriki.

 

[Final Boss]

Na kukuweka sawa swali la pili sikuulizwa Mimi, na nikisema ni mjibie basi nitasema Russia hakutoa muda wa kukamilisha vita yake, Kama vile ambavyo hata nyie hamjui

But, hoja yangu ni nyie kusema et ilimchukua NATO miaka 20 ni hoja ya hovyo kwani hamjui hata Kama alikamilisha malengo yake soon after kuingia Afghanistan,

Na, naomba niwaulize swali

1.mnajua kwanini US aliingia Afghanistan!

2.Na je alifanikisha ama hakufanikisha?

3. Kama alifanikisha alichukua muda gani kufanikisha?

Mkijibu hayo maswali then ubishi utaisha

Ok taratibu.

Kutoka kwenye majibu yako itoshe kukiri kua kusema kua Russia failed in Ukraine is Propaganda. Cuz you can't claim something that's doesn't exist. Hujui malengo yao, huna time frame ya Operation so how come umejua au mmejua kua mipango imebuma?, it's insanity claiming Russia failed in Ukraine while you know not of their plan.

Second, Wadai kua hoja ya NATO miaka 20 Afghanistan ni ya Hovyo. Yes ni ya HOVYO kutoka kwenye fikra zako. But to the rest ina mashiko why? Cuz its Reality, NATO took 20yrs in Afghanistan fighting against Taliban. Yet they didn't win.

If not, go back to your source. Tafuta ni Vita gani walivyopigana kwa mda mrefu zaidi kwenye historia yao. Probably utapata kua ni Afghanistan, 5 months more than Vietnam.

Third, You said that US/NATO invade Afghanistan kupigana na hao magaidi after September 11 attack, there after you want us to believe kuondoa Taliban madarakani ulikuwa ni ushindi kwao na sio kuliangamiza hilo kundi la Taliban.

Let say yes kuondoa madarakani ilikuwa ushindi, can you tell us nini walichokua wakifanya mda wote wakiwa hapo? Can you tell us how Taliban up to today wako hapo? Walikuwa wakisaidiwa na Taifa gani? Unasoma history? Tueleze kwanini majarida na vyombo vyote vya habari including wikipedia wrote that Taliban walishinda vita hivyo?

As far as we know, ni kua walivamia kuwapiga hao magaidi na kuwatokomeza kabisa. Swali hicho kikundi kinachodaiwa cha magaidi kimeisha? Why a war have ended with them to regain Power? Is that what you claim to be a Winning by US/NATO?

Again can you tell us why they claim it took 20yrs the same thing ambacho wewe unaona ni cha hovyo?

Can you tell us how long it was? If really sio 20yrs?

 

[Aiba]

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Yeye anatoka Leo waaambie pepsi Coca-Cola MacDonald walitooka siku ya pili tu baada ya varangati kuanza na wala wananchi hawajawai lala njaa

 

[Jesus Mlokozi]

‼️20 European companies have opened accounts with Gazprombank to purchase gas, another 14 have requested the necessary documents for their opening, Bloomberg reports‼️
WEST WAS WINNING RIGHT?!

 

[Jesus Mlokozi]

Habari ni nini? Wamesema hiyohiyo tangu miaka 40 walipoanzisha uhusiano wa kibalozi na China bara.
Wamesema hiyohiyo na kuwapa Taiwan silaha ili waweze kujitetea.
Hakika China haina mpango kushambulia Taiwan sasa, hawako tayari, hata kama wangependa.
Kushambulia Taiwan si rahisi vile jinsi ilivyokuwa kwa Urusi huko Ukraine, maana kuna bahari na umbali wa kilomita 160. Bila shaka Taiwan walitazama vizuri sana jinsi manowari za Urusi zinabadilishwa kuwa nyambizi . . . . na China inatazama pia. Roketi ndogo yenye bei ya $ elfu kadhaa inaweza kuzamisha meli yenye thamani ya milioni nyingi...

Mimi huwa sijadiliani na watu wa mipasho. Pita kushoto mwana, usitafute attention kwangu.

 

[Melki Wamatukio]

Bongo Systems zina utaratibu mreeefu. Wakati kwingine huko ni suala la System yenyewe inafuata vigezo ukivitimiza unajikuta You're Verified Already.[emoji736]

Majibu kutoka kwa moderator anaetumia ID hii!
Eti mkuu, mfano wa social media ya nje ambayo inaku verify automatic bila kuwasiliana na wenye system ni ipi? Mfano tafadhari na vigezo hivyo viweke hapa!
Ni ombi mkuu!!

 

[Jesus Mlokozi]

📊In total, 164 Ukrainian aircraft and 125 helicopters, 821 unmanned aerial vehicles, 303 anti-aircraft missile systems, 3,013 tanks and other armored combat vehicles, 364 multiple launch rocket systems, 1,471 field artillery and mortars, as well as 2,824 units of special military vehicles were destroyed during the operation.


#MoD #Russia #Ukraine #Briefing
@mod_russia_en

 

[Galip Veryl]

Ok taratibu.

Kutoka kwenye majibu yako itoshe kukiri kua kusema kua Russia failed in Ukraine is Propaganda. Cuz you can't claim something that's doesn't exist. Hujui malengo yao, huna time frame ya Operation so how come umejua au mmejua kua mipango imebuma?, it's insanity claiming Russia failed in Ukraine while you know not of their plan.

Second, Wadai kua hoja ya NATO miaka 20 Afghanistan ni ya Hovyo. Yes ni ya HOVYO kutoka kwenye fikra zako. But to the rest ina mashiko why? Cuz its Reality, NATO took 20yrs in Afghanistan fighting against Taliban. Yet they didn't win.

If not, go back to your source. Tafuta ni Vita gani walivyopigana kwa mda mrefu zaidi kwenye historia yao. Probably utapata kua ni Afghanistan, 5 months more than Vietnam.

Third, You said that US/NATO invade Afghanistan kupigana na hao magaidi after September 11 attack, there after you want us to believe kuondoa Taliban madarakani ulikuwa ni ushindi kwao na sio kuliangamiza hilo kundi la Taliban.

Let say yes kuondoa madarakani ilikuwa ushindi, can you tell us nini walichokua wakifanya mda wote wakiwa hapo? Can you tell us how Taliban up to today wako hapo? Walikuwa wakisaidiwa na Taifa gani? Unasoma history? Tueleze kwanini majarida na vyombo vyote vya habari including wikipedia wrote that Taliban walishinda vita hivyo?

As far as we know, ni kua walivamia kuwapiga hao magaidi na kuwatokomeza kabisa. Swali hicho kikundi kinachodaiwa cha magaidi kimeisha? Why a war have ended with them to regain Power? Is that what you claim to be a Winning by US/NATO?

Again can you tell us why they claim it took 20yrs the same thing ambacho wewe unaona ni cha hovyo?

Can you tell us how long it was? If really sio 20yrs?

Kunywa pepsi Big bro [emoji847]

Taliban kaupiga mwingi ndani ya miaka 20 nchi zaidi ya 30 wanazodai wana Intelligence ya kufa mtu wameshindwa kukiangamiza kikundi hicho et leo Russia akiwa peke yake huku wao wakijikusanya upande wa pili kumpa kila aina ya Intels na silaha wanadai yuko slow na mchovu.

Dadeki kama Taleban kawahenyesha bila msaada angekuwa anapewa walau 10% ya hiki anachotunukiwa Ukraine wangepukutika kama kuku.

Na ikumbukwe hata USSR alipoingia Afghanistan, US na team yake walifanya kama wanachokifanya sasa kwa Ukraine. Ndani ya miaka 10 wakitoa support kwa Mujaheed enzi hizo Osama Bin Laden akiitwa Shujaa wao... Anti Soviet Warrior.

 

[Cash Generating Unit]

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Kijana punguza mahaba

 

[Mrengwa wa kulia]

"Mbuzi kamla Mbwa" huu usemi nimeukopa kutoka kwa MDAU humu JF

hahahahaha. nimekukumbuka we mdau

 

[MHP]

Ka

Na Ukraine yupo Zelensky na anampelekea moto putin hatareee na meli kailipua na Kyiev kamfurusha na wenye hela yaan western washampiga vikwazo vya nguvu urusi kabaki analialia tu.

Na urusi anaihara NATO hatareee ndo maana hataki ukraine ijiunge NATO maana anajua hatari yake. So kama manhataan waliiba germany so ni akili ya western hapo inatawala tena ya jews.

We unacheze na nchi kama US ambayo ina kambi za kijeshi nchi mbalimbali inafadhili miradi mingi ya maendeleo duniani. Haya Finland inayo inataka kujiunga NATO......

Kama ni Mwanamke ulishawahi olewa Uka achika 🤒🤒🤒🤒

 

[kilwakivinje]

Swali jepesi Taliban alitolewa kwenye power mwaka gani?

Ilichukuwa muda gani mpaka Taliban akatolewa madarakani since US kuingia Afghanistan?

Nataka unijibu mwenye hoja [emoji16]

Bado hujajibu kitu

 

[NYUNDO YA MOTO]

Gas prices in Europe in the first minutes of trading on the London ICE stock exchange grow by almost 10% and exceed $1,100 per 1,000 cubic meters - trading data.

 

[NYUNDO YA MOTO]

The Kherson region will not deviate from the course towards integration with Russia and will not return under the control of Kyiv.

This statement was made by the deputy head of the military-civilian administration of the region Kirill Stremousov.

“Kherson region will never again be a colony of Western partners who brought Ukraine to complete degradation,” RIA Novosti quotes him.

Stremousov also said that the region would supply free water to Crimea:

“The supply of water through the North Crimean Canal is a vital and necessary moment. We are not businessmen to demand something from the republic, which gave us its friendly shoulder.

 

[NYUNDO YA MOTO]

During the shelling of the Belgorod village of Solokhi, 17 houses and six cars were damaged, Governor Vyacheslav Gladkov said.

He added that the windows of the school, the post office and the store were broken. Restoration work will begin tomorrow.

According to the Ministry of Health of the region, as a result of the shelling, one person is in intensive care, six are in a state of moderate severity, and one more has died.

 

[NYUNDO YA MOTO]

The US Senate demanded tougher energy sanctions against Russia.

This proposal was made by Republican Senator Rob Portman. RT got acquainted with the text of his speech.

The politician said that the income that Moscow receives from the sale of energy resources abroad goes to "financing the Russian military machine."

Europe is one region that heavily relies on energy supplies from Russia, Portman said.

 

[NYUNDO YA MOTO]

The President and Prime Minister of Finland announced their support for their country's membership in NATO.

 

[NYUNDO YA MOTO]

Nadana Friedrichson @FridrihShow, journalist

The era of pragmatic Europeans is over. It's time for Eurofanatics.

The EU will spend €195 billion over the next five years to get rid of energy dependence on Russia.

To finance the murder of one's own industry, jobs and standard of living from the money of one's own citizens is already from the field of psychiatry. But the question is different.

The European Union is an important market. Russia supplies Europe with 180-200 billion cubic meters a year. And since Russia is not engaged in changing political elites, we need to think about our five-year plan. To whom and how will we sell oil and gas?

The EU will not be satisfied with American liquefied gas. They themselves understand this. And no green energy will flourish in five years. This means that they will look for an alternative supplier, namely Iran.

The Emir of Qatar will soon visit Tehran and then plans to travel to Germany, the UK and other European countries to discuss the revival of the nuclear deal and Europe's "energy security".

Yes, and the head of EU diplomacy, Borrell, said that the EU is trying with its last strength to break the deadlock with the Geneva talks around the Iranian nuclear program.

But the Americans are unlikely to allow Europe to solve the issue of Iranian blue fuel supplies so easily, although now on the sidelines, perhaps, they are promising them a positive result in exchange for multi-vector Russophobia. In this case, the EU will have to feel like a little Kuleba.

But if suddenly the Iranian issue is resolved, yes, the EU will get access to the colossal reserves of Persian gas. True, they will have to invest in the modernization of Iran's gas transportation system, in the laying of pipelines, and also to bargain with Erdogan, since the route to the south of Europe passes through Turkey. Erdogan, by the way, will not forget the failed EU membership, while Germany and France will remember old grievances. But, let's say, Brussels will cope with this. And in the end, after spending and concessions to Ankara, Iranian gas will go to Europe. In this case, Russia can get its percentage - Moscow and Tehran agreed on swap gas supplies. But this will not cover all our losses.

China as a buyer also does not add optimism. In 2021, only 10.4 billion cubic meters were pumped through the Power of Siberia gas pipeline. For comparison, over the same year, Russia supplied about 130 billion cubic meters of gas to the EU.

There is also a Soviet project to supply gas to India and Afghanistan. Due to the summer changes in the political life of Kabul, we put it out of the brackets for now. As for India, in 2021 Gazprom refused to create export gas pipelines in this direction, since they turned out to be “capital intensive”.

Apparently, Russia needs to spend its five-year period on restructuring: moving from gas pipelines to LNG projects. There is potential for this, and nothing prevents us from becoming one of the leaders in this direction.

But for now, our idea of sanity is playing against us. We cannot believe that the era of pragmatic Europeans is over. It's time for Eurofanatics.

There is no need to wait for the reasonable and eternal to win in the EU. This will not happen in the coming years. If we cannot defeat the fanaticism of Europe, we must become one of its sources. Nothing personal, just gas and pragmatism.

 

[NYUNDO YA MOTO]

Aviation of the Russian Aerospace Forces destroyed the S-300 air defense radar in the Odessa region and the missile and artillery weapons depot in the Kharkov region - Russian Defense Ministry.