Special Thread: Yanayojiri Mgogoro wa Ukraine na Urusi. Nini chanzo na hatma ya mzozo?

[NYUNDO YA MOTO]

"The US is deliberately turning things upside down."

Ambassador Anatoly Antonov commented on the statement by the State Department that the food crisis arose allegedly due to the actions of the Russian Federation in the Black and Azov Seas:

“The Kyiv authorities are mining the waters of ports, preventing ships from delivering provisions and other goods to other states. At the same time, our attempts to coordinate the opening of humanitarian corridors are still ignored.”

According to the diplomat, it is anti-Russian sanctions that hinder the supply of food and fertilizers. Despite this, Russia will continue to fulfill its obligations under international export contracts in good faith, he added.

 

[NYUNDO YA MOTO]

The Russian Defense Ministry reported that 13 Ukrainian drones were shot down in a day, including one Bayraktar over Zmeiny Island.

 

[Reborn tkd]

Ok taratibu.

Kutoka kwenye majibu yako itoshe kukiri kua kusema kua Russia failed in Ukraine is Propaganda. Cuz you can't claim something that's doesn't exist. Hujui malengo yao, huna time frame ya Operation so how come umejua au mmejua kua mipango imebuma?, it's insanity claiming Russia failed in Ukraine while you know not of their plan.

Invasion ya Ukraine ni catastrophic failure ambayo itakumbukwa milele. Russia alitangaza malengo yake Ukraine ni denazification na demilitarization. Kwanza unaanzaje Ku denazify Nchi inayoongozwa na Jews, hii si ni kinaya. Kwanza Neo Nazis ni wengi Russia kuliko Ukraine

Second, Wadai kua hoja ya NATO miaka 20 Afghanistan ni ya Hovyo. Yes ni ya HOVYO kutoka kwenye fikra zako. But to the rest ina mashiko why? Cuz its Reality, NATO took 20yrs in Afghanistan fighting against Taliban. Yet they didn't win.

If not, go back to your source. Tafuta ni Vita gani walivyopigana kwa mda mrefu zaidi kwenye historia yao. Probably utapata kua ni Afghanistan, 5 months more than Vietnam.

Ndani ya wiki kadhaa USA ilikua imeshashinda vita Afghanistan, Taliban waliondolewa madarakani, ila USA isingejiondoa mbio mbio manake walikua wameweka Serikali mpya ambayo ilihitaji kulindwa na kupewa mafunzo.

Third, You said that US/NATO invade Afghanistan kupigana na hao magaidi after September 11 attack, there after you want us to believe kuondoa Taliban madarakani ulikuwa ni ushindi kwao na sio kuliangamiza hilo kundi la Taliban.

Let say yes kuondoa madarakani ilikuwa ushindi, can you tell us nini walichokua wakifanya mda wote wakiwa hapo? Can you tell us how Taliban up to today wako hapo? Walikuwa wakisaidiwa na Taifa gani? Unasoma history? Tueleze kwanini majarida na vyombo vyote vya habari including wikipedia wrote that Taliban walishinda vita hivyo?

As far as we know, ni kua walivamia kuwapiga hao magaidi na kuwatokomeza kabisa. Swali hicho kikundi kinachodaiwa cha magaidi kimeisha? Why a war have ended with them to regain Power? Is that what you claim to be a Winning by US/NATO?

Taliban kabla kuvamiwa walikua serikali kamili kwahio kuwaondoa madarakani ni ushindi mkubwa manake kikundi hicho kilidhoofika, hawana pesa, hawana silaha na hawana sympathy ya raia kama hapo mwanzo. Wakapoteza nguvu zao za kijeshi na ikabidi waanze kuvizia vizia soft targets.

Again can you tell us why they claim it took 20yrs the same thing ambacho wewe unaona ni cha hovyo?

Can you tell us how long it was? If really sio 20yrs?

Hio miaka 20 Ilikua kuifunza serikali mpya ya Afghanistan jinsi ya kujitawala,America ilipoona kwamba muda umefika wajitegemee wenyewe wakajitoa. Lakini serikali mpya ikazidiwa ndani ya wiki moja. Alafu nataka ujue kwamba Taliban ya sasa ni tofauti na ya 2001, it doesn't pose any danger to USA

 

[Aleyn]

Unadhani Putin atakwambia ukweli? Kama Kwa week 2 alikiri kupoteza 1500 je Sasa Hivi week ya 10 ni wangapi haha

Bila kusahau majenerali wake. Na kipindi kile alikiri kupoteza hao 1500 ilikuwa bado Ukraine hajaanza kufanya mashambulizi kwa vifaa vya russia vya kivita hasa meli na base zingine.

 

[NYUNDO YA MOTO]

The West has unleashed a proxy war (“war by proxy”) with Russia, Medvedev said.

"one. The pumping of weapons by NATO countries into Ukraine, the training of its troops to use Western equipment, the dispatch of mercenaries and the holding of exercises by the countries of the alliance near our borders increase the likelihood of a direct and open conflict between NATO and Russia instead of being waged by them.

2. Such a conflict always has the risk of turning into a full-fledged nuclear war.

3. This will be a catastrophic scenario for everyone,” wrote the deputy chairman of the Security Council, urging Western countries to think about the consequences of their actions and wishing them “not to choke on their own saliva in the paroxysms of Russophobia.”

 

[Galip Veryl]

Wakubwa wanamkingia mdogo wao kifua

China, Russia oppose further UN sanctions on North Korea over missile tests

🔹China and Russia have voiced opposition to further sanctions by the United Nations Security Council (UNSC) against North Korea over its missile tests, as the United States urges the council to impose such measures on Pyongyang.

 

[Jesus Mlokozi]

🇷🇺Russia is successfully coping with sanctions, inflation is slowing down, Putin said.

The grain harvest in 2022 may turn out to be a record in the entire history of Russia.

The ruble is showing the best dynamics among all currencies in the world this year.

Sanctions against Russia in many ways provoke a global economic crisis.

Some countries face the threat of famine. The blame for this lies solely with the elites of Western countries.

 

[bobby_Barbosa_9]

Ok taratibu.

Kutoka kwenye majibu yako itoshe kukiri kua kusema kua Russia failed in Ukraine is Propaganda. Cuz you can't claim something that's doesn't exist. Hujui malengo yao, huna time frame ya Operation so how come umejua au mmejua kua mipango imebuma?, it's insanity claiming Russia failed in Ukraine while you know not of their plan.

Second, Wadai kua hoja ya NATO miaka 20 Afghanistan ni ya Hovyo. Yes ni ya HOVYO kutoka kwenye fikra zako. But to the rest ina mashiko why? Cuz its Reality, NATO took 20yrs in Afghanistan fighting against Taliban. Yet they didn't win.

If not, go back to your source. Tafuta ni Vita gani walivyopigana kwa mda mrefu zaidi kwenye historia yao. Probably utapata kua ni Afghanistan, 5 months more than Vietnam.

Third, You said that US/NATO invade Afghanistan kupigana na hao magaidi after September 11 attack, there after you want us to believe kuondoa Taliban madarakani ulikuwa ni ushindi kwao na sio kuliangamiza hilo kundi la Taliban.

Let say yes kuondoa madarakani ilikuwa ushindi, can you tell us nini walichokua wakifanya mda wote wakiwa hapo? Can you tell us how Taliban up to today wako hapo? Walikuwa wakisaidiwa na Taifa gani? Unasoma history? Tueleze kwanini majarida na vyombo vyote vya habari including wikipedia wrote that Taliban walishinda vita hivyo?

As far as we know, ni kua walivamia kuwapiga hao magaidi na kuwatokomeza kabisa. Swali hicho kikundi kinachodaiwa cha magaidi kimeisha? Why a war have ended with them to regain Power? Is that what you claim to be a Winning by US/NATO?

Again can you tell us why they claim it took 20yrs the same thing ambacho wewe unaona ni cha hovyo?

Can you tell us how long it was? If really sio 20yrs?

Op sio ya hovyo bali nyie hoja zenu ndizo za hovyo.

Nimekuuliza kwamba US walitimiza malengo yao ama vipi, una ruka ruka tu.

Kaenda baada ya terrorism ambalo katika uchunguzi ikaonekana chanzo chake ni Afghanistan then akaenda na kachukua miaka 20 yuko kule...

Je katika hiyo miaka 20 Kuna terrorism imetokea kwenye ardhi ya US inayo husisha Taliban na sio tu US kwenye nchi shirika za NATo? Jibu ni hapana,

Hii Ina maana gani, ka timiza lengo lake ama vipi?[emoji3]

Kingine, nimekutumia kule juu article inaeleza kila kitu alichofanya miaka yote hiyo, ikiwemo kuhakikisha Taliban haingii kwenye power, pia ku train, n.k

 

[bobby_Barbosa_9]

Na naongeza hii. Then compare nguvu zilizotumika kwenye hizo vita mbili.

Huku wenzenu walifanikiwa kuchukua nchi na kuweka serikal mpya na kuwatoa taliban baada tu ya kufika Afghanistan.

Mtu kapeleka over 150k troops Ukraine afu bado shughuri ipo, na hapo Kuna hadi matumizi ya mabomu ya masafa marefu[emoji3]

Na saivi kaanza kupigwa kwenye nchi yake.
[emoji16]

 

[The Sunk Cost Fallacy]

Kijana punguza mahaba

Kunazidi kucha👇

 

[Final Boss]

What's going in Europe can be translated as they are trying to save the collapsing dollar. We can say It is the true reason for this conflict to have started.

The end of the Afghan occupation wasn't an end to war, but was the beggining to something bigger.

Other than the Russian Ruble, the dollar is the only forex performing well in majors. Does anyone believe this is a coincidence?

Think again.

 

[Mtoto wa nzi]

Hakuna gas kukatiza ardhi ya Ukraine kwenda kwa baadhi ya wapuuzi wa Ulaya ambao bado wanasita sita kama Hungary na Germany 👇

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Wakati mwingine mfiche ujinga wenu PRONATOAMERICA..... Si wapo vitani ... Si walipue tu hiyo miundombinu ... Maonyo maonyo mavikwazo vikwazo na bado wananunue ...aseee nyie ni wehu sana

 

[The Sunk Cost Fallacy]

Wakati mwingine mfiche ujinga wenu PRONATOAMERICA..... Si wapo vitani ... Si walipue tu hiyo miundombinu ... Maonyo maonyo mavikwazo vikwazo na bado wananunue ...aseee nyie ni wehu sana

Huwa hatukurupuki kama vichaa wa Putin 👇

 

[Mtoto wa nzi]

Na Ukraine yupo Zelensky na anampelekea moto putin hatareee na meli kailipua na Kyiev kamfurusha na wenye hela yaan western washampiga vikwazo vya nguvu urusi kabaki analialia tu.

Na urusi anaihara NATO hatareee ndo maana hataki ukraine ijiunge NATO maana anajua hatari yake. So kama manhataan waliiba germany so ni akili ya western hapo inatawala tena ya jews.

We unacheze na nchi kama US ambayo ina kambi za kijeshi nchi mbalimbali inafadhili miradi mingi ya maendeleo duniani. Haya Finland inayo inataka kujiunga NATO......

Mamaaamaeeeee aseeee ...... Huyu wakuignore sasa . ..

 

[bobby_Barbosa_9]

Kuna replies nyingi but I wish nipate wale warusi wa humu waliosema kwamba Finland hawezi kuomba ku join NATO na akiomba atachapika na mrusi[emoji16]

Haya kaomba sasa

 

[Mtoto wa nzi]

Huwa hatukurupuki kama vichaa wa Putin 👇

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Leteni tena Kwa wingi ........

 

[Mwanamkiwi]

Mwanamkiwi said:
Urusi wana mapokeo ya kitaifa: akishindwa vitani, mtawala anaondolewa baada ya muda mfupi. Warusi wanatunza mapokeo ya kitaifa sana!
Na putin anaelekea kushindwa, hii ni dhahiri. Kyiv alipaswa kukimbua, Donbas anakwama . . . . manowari zake zinapungua, roketi zake pia . . .

Hiz taarifa unazitoa wapi

Elimu ya kawaida tu:
1) Historia inaonyesha watawala wote wa Urusi wana mamlaka kubwa. Lakini wakishindwa vitani - basi. Vita ya Afghanistan walipigwa na kuondoka 1989, 1991 serikali ya Wakomunisti ilipinduliwa; 1917 Urusi ilishindwa kwenye Vita Kuu ya Kwanza, Tsar alipinduliwa; 1801 Tsar Pavel aliuawa na wanajeshi baada ya kushindwa katika vita dhidi ya Ufaransa...
2) Jeshi la Putin kupigwa kule Kyiv na kukwama Donbass baada ya miezi mitatu - hakuna siri,

 

[Mwanamkiwi]

Mimi huwa sijadiliani na watu wa mipasho. Pita kushoto mwana, usitafute attention kwangu.

Kama huwezi kuvumilia upepo, kaa ndani. Ukiamini unaweza kuamrisha watu - endelea kuota ndoto.

 

[Final Boss]

Invasion ya Ukraine ni catastrophic failure ambayo itakumbukwa milele. Russia alitangaza malengo yake Ukraine ni denazification na demilitarization. Kwanza unaanzaje Ku denazify Nchi inayoongozwa na Jews, hii si ni kinaya. Kwanza Neo Nazis ni wengi Russia kuliko Ukraine

Ndani ya wiki kadhaa USA ilikua imeshashinda vita Afghanistan, Taliban waliondolewa madarakani, ila USA isingejiondoa mbio mbio manake walikua wameweka Serikali mpya ambayo ilihitaji kulindwa na kupewa mafunzo.

Taliban kabla kuvamiwa walikua serikali kamili kwahio kuwaondoa madarakani ni ushindi mkubwa manake kikundi hicho kilidhoofika, hawana pesa, hawana silaha na hawana sympathy ya raia kama hapo mwanzo. Wakapoteza nguvu zao za kijeshi na ikabidi waanze kuvizia vizia soft targets.

Hio miaka 20 Ilikua kuifunza serikali mpya ya Afghanistan jinsi ya kujitawala,America ilipoona kwamba muda umefika wajitegemee wenyewe wakajitoa. Lakini serikali mpya ikazidiwa ndani ya wiki moja. Alafu nataka ujue kwamba Taliban ya sasa ni tofauti na ya 2001, it doesn't pose any danger to USA

Can you submit your claim here so as they can change what a history have written? War in Afghanistan (2001–2021) - Wikipedia

So as they can write again fo the people to read that US/NATO defeat Taliban, now Taliban doesn't exist anywhere in the world?

Do you think your wishful thinking can change a reality that US/NATO failed in Afghanistan? Have Failed to eliminate Taliban in Afghanistan? 20yrs? Don't mention Phase 1 and 2.

You want us to believe you kua US and all It's allies took 20 yrs to teach Afghans namna ya kuongoza nchi yao? Walikuwa wakiwafundisha punguani sio vichwa ngumu kuelewa to the extent after 20yrs Taliban waendelee kutawala?

Ooooh come on, try a little to make your argument worth a read buddy. You can't twist a reality that's known to everybody for your wishful thinking.

Libya pale? How long did they took to defeat Gaddafi? One day right? In case you don't know its 7 Month. A bunch of Clowns fighting against one Man Gaddafi without a tiny support from other nations.

Have you ever imagine all those countries if they gotta Support like what Ukraine is receiving now, Invaders will they able to make it?

 

[for life]

Aseee......eti Na huyu ni Great thinker..,

Huyu si great thinker ni mobutu sese seko kuku ngbengu wa za banga