Special Thread: Yanayojiri Mgogoro wa Ukraine na Urusi. Nini chanzo na hatma ya mzozo?

Special Thread: Yanayojiri Mgogoro wa Ukraine na Urusi. Nini chanzo na hatma ya mzozo?

MR MAJANGA said:
🇨🇳🇺🇲🇹🇼 President Xi Jinping on Pelosi's visit to Taiwan:

“We continue to look at the world with wide eyes so as not to miss a single provocation by American reactionaries. Pelosi's visit to Taiwan is yet another demonstration of the uncivilized campaign of the imperialists and the victory of the Chinese Communist Party."
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Duh Xi Jinping ameanza maneno ya motivational speakers Sasa.
 
Qibsyl said:
To some point bado niko na view tofauti na wenzangu hapa. Most katika mnaoiponda China naona mko too emotional 😄...

Me nahifadhi ulimi wangu nasubiri end result nitakuwa na la kuongea, huwa sipendelei kuzungumza kitu later nikirudishe kinywani.

Kuna maswali mkitulizana mnaweza kukaa kuyatafakari kama mkiweza.

1. Sote twajua kua US hegemony is collapsing, Je US akipoteana nani will come next? Probably ni China ambae ndie second in term of economy.

Sasa hapo em tujiulize kwanini US akaamua kama mbwai na iwe mbwai kwenda mazima kumchokoza wazi China huku dunia yote ikiwatizama?

Kwa upande wenu wadau hamuoni ni kama US anatafuta wa kudondoka nae kwenye korongo alilopo?

2. We all knows part wanayo play China na Taiwan kwa pa1 kwenye Global economy. Kama hali kwa Russia mmeiona ilivyokua hadi uku tunaisoma number. Hapo ni kwenye energy pekee vipi China na Taiwan nao?

Hii mbona nayo pia kama yafanana vile na kile ambacho tunaweza kukitafsiri US anatafuta wa kushuka nao kwenye korongo alipo. Hapo tusisahau Quarter zote hizi 1 na 2 za mwaka huu uchumi wa US unasoma negative growth.

Tukiacha zile mbwembwe alizofanya China kuna kitu me naweza kukisema kwa udadisi wangu mdogo huu nilio nao. Kuna ule msemo unasema usimpe adui kile anachohitaji.

Hicho nahisi ndicho China kaamua kukifanya, hapa nifahamike vizuri. Sio kwamba namtetea China ila najaribu kuwaza nje ya box.

Inaonekana kama US alikuwa anataka direct war with China akiwa na sababu zake na akitaka kuitumia hiyo Chance ya uchokozi akiamini wazi China atareact kwa shambulizi dhidi yao hivyo yeye kupata justification ya kuwazoa nduguze wote waingie hapo kuibomoa China. Ambae of course ndie back up in term of economy ya taasisi nyingine ambazo US na team yake hawamo.

Kwa tukio la leo kama ambavyo Russia aliondoka Kiev kimkakati. Naamini kuna jambo anakuja nalo China dunia haitaamini. Simtetei China ila daima huwa na mashaka sana na maamuzi ya watu wakimya wasio penda kuongea ongea sana kama Putin na Xi.

Let us not forget nenda kote duniani aliye fanikiwa kusimama kidete against US kiuchumi toka kuvunjika kwa USSR ni China pekee, na hawakufika hapo bahati mbaya. So tusiwa overestimate wala kuwa underestimate. Tukae zetu kati tu.

Sie tuwe observers tu inatosha!

Mda una majibu mazuri tuupe nafasi yake. Tusiwe wepesi w kuhukum.

Nyongeza ya maelezo, Kwa wale wapenzi wa Multipolar inabidi tushangilie hizi ***** ***** za US na China. Why?, Ni hivi wadau, mvurugano zaidi wa US na China utazidi kumsogeza China karibu na Russia.

Mvurugano zaidi wa Russia na US utazidi kumsukuma zaidi na zaidi Russia kwa China. Hii combo ya Superior Military (Russia) na Superior Economy (China) ndio tunayo ihtaji wapenda multipolar.

Hii visit ya huyu bibi inazidi kukoleza speed kwenye mteremko katika kuharibika kwa Unipolar world inayoisumbua dunia.

Mawazo yangu hayo mwenye mtazamo tofauti anakaribishwa.
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Hongera kwa uchambuzi murua kabisa mkuu,walau fundo la hasira limenishuka kidogo.
Kwa kuongezea tu,Mimi nahisi Marekani baada ya kuonyesha udhaifu wake Ukraine,alitaka kujisafisha kwa China.
 
Qibsyl said:
To some point bado niko na view tofauti na wenzangu hapa. Most katika mnaoiponda China naona mko too emotional [emoji1]...

Me nahifadhi ulimi wangu nasubiri end result nitakuwa na la kuongea, huwa sipendelei kuzungumza kitu later nikirudishe kinywani.

Kuna maswali mkitulizana mnaweza kukaa kuyatafakari kama mkiweza.

1. Sote twajua kua US hegemony is collapsing, Je US akipoteana nani will come next? Probably ni China ambae ndie second in term of economy.

Sasa hapo em tujiulize kwanini US akaamua kama mbwai na iwe mbwai kwenda mazima kumchokoza wazi China huku dunia yote ikiwatizama?

Kwa upande wenu wadau hamuoni ni kama US anatafuta wa kudondoka nae kwenye korongo alilopo?

2. We all knows part wanayo play China na Taiwan kwa pa1 kwenye Global economy. Kama hali kwa Russia mmeiona ilivyokua hadi uku tunaisoma number. Hapo ni kwenye energy pekee vipi China na Taiwan nao?

Hii mbona nayo pia kama yafanana vile na kile ambacho tunaweza kukitafsiri US anatafuta wa kushuka nao kwenye korongo alipo. Hapo tusisahau Quarter zote hizi 1 na 2 za mwaka huu uchumi wa US unasoma negative growth.

Tukiacha zile mbwembwe alizofanya China kuna kitu me naweza kukisema kwa udadisi wangu mdogo huu nilio nao. Kuna ule msemo unasema usimpe adui kile anachohitaji.

Hicho nahisi ndicho China kaamua kukifanya, hapa nifahamike vizuri. Sio kwamba namtetea China ila najaribu kuwaza nje ya box.

Inaonekana kama US alikuwa anataka direct war with China akiwa na sababu zake na akitaka kuitumia hiyo Chance ya uchokozi akiamini wazi China atareact kwa shambulizi dhidi yao hivyo yeye kupata justification ya kuwazoa nduguze wote waingie hapo kuibomoa China. Ambae of course ndie back up in term of economy ya taasisi nyingine ambazo US na team yake hawamo.

Kwa tukio la leo kama ambavyo Russia aliondoka Kiev kimkakati. Naamini kuna jambo anakuja nalo China dunia haitaamini. Simtetei China ila daima huwa na mashaka sana na maamuzi ya watu wakimya wasio penda kuongea ongea sana kama Putin na Xi.

Let us not forget nenda kote duniani aliye fanikiwa kusimama kidete against US kiuchumi toka kuvunjika kwa USSR ni China pekee, na hawakufika hapo bahati mbaya. So tusiwa overestimate wala kuwa underestimate. Tukae zetu kati tu.

Sie tuwe observers tu inatosha!

Mda una majibu mazuri tuupe nafasi yake. Tusiwe wepesi w kuhukum.

Nyongeza ya maelezo, Kwa wale wapenzi wa Multipolar inabidi tushangilie hizi ***** ***** za US na China. Why?, Ni hivi wadau, mvurugano zaidi wa US na China utazidi kumsogeza China karibu na Russia.

Mvurugano zaidi wa Russia na US utazidi kumsukuma zaidi na zaidi Russia kwa China. Hii combo ya Superior Military (Russia) na Superior Economy (China) ndio tunayo ihtaji wapenda multipolar.

Hii visit ya huyu bibi inazidi kukoleza speed kwenye mteremko katika kuharibika kwa Unipolar world inayoisumbua dunia.

Mawazo yangu hayo mwenye mtazamo tofauti anakaribishwa.
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Moscow considers Pelosi's visit to Taiwan as a clear provocation in the spirit of the US aggressive line to comprehensively contain China and calls on Washington to refrain from actions that undermine stability in the region and the world - Russian Foreign Ministry.

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wa kupuliza said:
Duh kwa mikwara China haitofautiani na wale jamaa zetu wa fire hapa bongo,unawakuta njiani wamewasha king'ora na wako Kasi kishenzi njia nzima wameachiwa wao afu wakifika eneo la tukio unakuta Gari Lao halina maji ya kuzima Moto 😄😄😄😄
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Daaaaaaah!!! Umepatia kabisa.
 
Qibsyl said:
To some point bado niko na view tofauti na wenzangu hapa. Most katika mnaoiponda China naona mko too emotional [emoji1]...

Me nahifadhi ulimi wangu nasubiri end result nitakuwa na la kuongea, huwa sipendelei kuzungumza kitu later nikirudishe kinywani.

Kuna maswali mkitulizana mnaweza kukaa kuyatafakari kama mkiweza.

1. Sote twajua kua US hegemony is collapsing, Je US akipoteana nani will come next? Probably ni China ambae ndie second in term of economy.

Sasa hapo em tujiulize kwanini US akaamua kama mbwai na iwe mbwai kwenda mazima kumchokoza wazi China huku dunia yote ikiwatizama?

Kwa upande wenu wadau hamuoni ni kama US anatafuta wa kudondoka nae kwenye korongo alilopo?

2. We all knows part wanayo play China na Taiwan kwa pa1 kwenye Global economy. Kama hali kwa Russia mmeiona ilivyokua hadi uku tunaisoma number. Hapo ni kwenye energy pekee vipi China na Taiwan nao?

Hii mbona nayo pia kama yafanana vile na kile ambacho tunaweza kukitafsiri US anatafuta wa kushuka nao kwenye korongo alipo. Hapo tusisahau Quarter zote hizi 1 na 2 za mwaka huu uchumi wa US unasoma negative growth.

Tukiacha zile mbwembwe alizofanya China kuna kitu me naweza kukisema kwa udadisi wangu mdogo huu nilio nao. Kuna ule msemo unasema usimpe adui kile anachohitaji.

Hicho nahisi ndicho China kaamua kukifanya, hapa nifahamike vizuri. Sio kwamba namtetea China ila najaribu kuwaza nje ya box.

Inaonekana kama US alikuwa anataka direct war with China akiwa na sababu zake na akitaka kuitumia hiyo Chance ya uchokozi akiamini wazi China atareact kwa shambulizi dhidi yao hivyo yeye kupata justification ya kuwazoa nduguze wote waingie hapo kuibomoa China. Ambae of course ndie back up in term of economy ya taasisi nyingine ambazo US na team yake hawamo.

Kwa tukio la leo kama ambavyo Russia aliondoka Kiev kimkakati. Naamini kuna jambo anakuja nalo China dunia haitaamini. Simtetei China ila daima huwa na mashaka sana na maamuzi ya watu wakimya wasio penda kuongea ongea sana kama Putin na Xi.

Let us not forget nenda kote duniani aliye fanikiwa kusimama kidete against US kiuchumi toka kuvunjika kwa USSR ni China pekee, na hawakufika hapo bahati mbaya. So tusiwa overestimate wala kuwa underestimate. Tukae zetu kati tu.

Sie tuwe observers tu inatosha!

Mda una majibu mazuri tuupe nafasi yake. Tusiwe wepesi w kuhukum.

Nyongeza ya maelezo, Kwa wale wapenzi wa Multipolar inabidi tushangilie hizi ***** ***** za US na China. Why?, Ni hivi wadau, mvurugano zaidi wa US na China utazidi kumsogeza China karibu na Russia.

Mvurugano zaidi wa Russia na US utazidi kumsukuma zaidi na zaidi Russia kwa China. Hii combo ya Superior Military (Russia) na Superior Economy (China) ndio tunayo ihtaji wapenda multipolar.

Hii visit ya huyu bibi inazidi kukoleza speed kwenye mteremko katika kuharibika kwa Unipolar world inayoisumbua dunia.

Mawazo yangu hayo mwenye mtazamo tofauti anakaribishwa.
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Katika kitabu Cha Art of war Cha Sun Tzu
Kinasema shambulia pekee wakati ambao adui hatarajii[emoji38][emoji38][emoji38][emoji38][emoji38][emoji38]

Sasa kipindi hiki hakikuwa sahihi.

Nahitimisha
 
Muite said:
Halafu nashauri atolewe kwenye list ya Super power , tuliamini ni mkubwa kumbe ni PUTO tu
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wa kupuliza said:
Sasa walipeleka Yale mavifaa ya kijeshi kufanya nini wkt kichapo kulikua hakipo kwny Mpango wao?

Aisee nimeikubali Russia kumbe walifanya maamuzi ya kiume saaana,yaani mnooo.Sasa hivi ndio nimezidi kuwakubali maana nimejionea mchina alivyokua Mchele Mchele.
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wa kupuliza said:
Duh kwa mikwara China haitofautiani na wale jamaa zetu wa fire hapa bongo,unawakuta njiani wamewasha king'ora na wako Kasi kishenzi njia nzima wameachiwa wao afu wakifika eneo la tukio unakuta Gari Lao halina maji ya kuzima Moto 😄😄😄😄
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Wadau mie bado nasisitiza tuweke na brake kwenye hisia zetu kisha tusubiri end results naamini tutakuwa na mengi ya kuongea.

Namna mnavyoisakama China ni kama namna pro West hapa wanavyo usakama ule msururu wetu wa Kyiv enzi hizo.

Tujaribu kwenda nje ya box kidogo kuwaza why hivi ama why vile.

Naongezea tena neno, tusisahau Taiwan na China ni ndugu kama Ilivyo kwa Ukraine na Russia.

Imechukua miaka 8 kwa Russia kuamua kumchapa rasmi Ukraine baada ya ile Maiden Coup ya 2014.

Hebu tuizoom na Issue ya China hapo Taiwan kwa jicho la ziada. Kuna mengi naamini tutayaona.
 
Hammaz said:
China wamebaki na misemo yao ya kihenga na kiuhakika wanayo mengi.

China imeshadharaulika, inaonesha si mshirika wa kumwamini hususani ushirika wa kijeshi.

UK ilipojaribu kuvuka mipaka ya bahari na kujaribu kuingia Russia kilichofanyika Russia alipiga risasi za onyo kuonyesha ukithubutu tunafyatua kitu kamili.

Jeshi la Marekani lilipojaribu na merkebu yao kuingia mipaka ya Iran, jeshi la Iran liliwadhibiti na kuwaweka mateka.

Russia ilipoivamia Georgia makamanda wa NATO wakasema wanampa Russia juma moja! Russia ikajibu tunawasubiri. NATO haikuthubutu!

Kipindi cha Obama Marekani iliingia kwenye mgogoro mkubwa na North Korea. Kim akafunga balozi zote nchini mwake na kutangaza anajiandaa na vita na yupo tayari kwa lolote. Akasema ndani ya dakika 30 vita ameshaimaliza. UK iliingilia kati na kutaka huu mgogoro umalizwe kidipolmasia.

China huo ubavu hana! Ubavu huo alikuwa nao Mao ze Dong.
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Nimegundua kuna watu humu ni maafisa waliofuzu kwenye masuala ya jeshi. Aisee! Mnaifanya JF ivutie kweli. Unacheka hadi unasahau kama uko duniani.
 
CNN: Alina Kabaeva: US sanctions Putin's reputed girlfriend.
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US sanctions Putin's reputed girlfriend

The US Treasury Department on Tuesday sanctioned Russian President Vladimir Putin's reputed girlfriend as part of a series of measures targeting Russian elites in the Biden administration's latest attempt to punish the Kremlin for its ongoing war in Ukraine.
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MR MAJANGA said:
Kaposti nyingine 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣


"Well, why was it so much to catch up with horrors, scare people, raise a fuss when it was so easy to let the poor old woman fly to Taiwan? — Kadyrov.

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Kweli! Kwa nini Beijing walipiga kelele vile?
 
wa kupuliza said:
Sasa walipeleka Yale mavifaa ya kijeshi kufanya nini wkt kichapo kulikua hakipo kwny Mpango wao?
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Mkuu unauliza swali jema. Nahisi walitaka kutisha kidogo. Ila wamtishe nani wakati wanakusanya vifaru barani wakati adui yuko kisiwani na hawana uwezo wa kupeleka vifaru huko???
 
Qibsyl said:
Wadau mie bado nasisitiza tuweke na brake kwenye hisia zetu kisha tusubiri end results naamini tutakuwa na mengi ya kuongea.

Namna mnavyoisakama China ni kama namna pro West hapa wanavyo usakama ule msururu wetu wa Kyiv enzi hizo.

Tujaribu kwenda nje ya box kidogo kuwaza why hivi ama why vile.

Naongezea tena neno, tusisahau Taiwan na China ni ndugu kama Ilivyo kwa Ukraine na Russia.

Imechukua miaka 8 kwa Russia kuamua kumchapa rasmi Ukraine baada ya ile Maiden Coup ya 2014.

Hebu tuizoom na Issue ya China hapo Taiwan kwa jicho la ziada. Kuna mengi naamini tutayaona.
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Mkuu unaona kweli nchi moja ina haki kutisha nchi nyingine kwa sababu inajisikia nci ile inapaswa kutii matakwa yake? Siyo hii ni ufafanuzi wa ukoloni? Ni dhahiri watu wa Taiwan hawana hamu hata kidogo kumezwa na China. Je wana haki kuendelea njia zao ilhali hawatishi jirani China??

Yaani Tawaan imekuwa nchi ya pekee tangu mwaka 1949. Muda mrefu kuliko Tanzania kuwa nchi ya pekee. Je Waingereza warudi TZ na kusema: Lazima nchi hiyo nzuri irudi chini ya mabawa yetu???
 
#HUENDA CHINA IKAPORWA TONGE MDOMONI HUKU INAJIONA

Tayari Nancy pelosi kashatua Taiwan na hatuajaona china akiivamia Taiwan

Sasa kituo kinachofata ni Taiwan kujitangazia uhuru wake,

Bado mchina hajakwepa mtego wa marekani

BEHIND THE SCENE

ukiangalia china ndo taifa la pili Kwa uchumi duniani baada ya marekani, na ndio linaleta challenge ya kiuchumi Kwa marekani, hilo marekani anaitafuta china Kwa Kila namna iingie kwenye mgogoro ili iwekewe vikwazo na pia kuifanya ukuaji wake wa kiuchumi udumae

Kwa mujibu wa ripot ya shirika fedha Duniani IMF, inakadiliwa ifikapo mwishoni mwa mwaka huu 2022, uchumi wa marekani utafikia GDP 24 trillion us dollar wakati uchumi wa china utafikia GDP 18 trillion us dollar [emoji385]

Lakini hilo sio kubwa sana, kikubwa ni Kasi ya ukuwaji wa uchumi wa mataifa hayo, ripot ya IMF inaonesha Kwa mwaka huu 2022 ukuaji wa uchumi wa marekani ni WA kiwango Cha asilimia 3.5% wakati china ni 5.57% hii inaonesha picha nzuri Kwa upande wa china

Lakini pia wataalamu wa uchumi wa IMF wanakadilia ifikapo mwaka 2026 uchumi wa marekani utakuwa ni GDP 27 trillion us dollar[emoji385][emoji383] wakati china itakuwa na uchumi wa GDP 24 trillion us dollar [emoji385][emoji383]
Hapo utaona Kuna utofauti wa gap, kati ya mwaka 2022 na 2026 ambapo Kwa mwaka 2022 china imepigwa gap la kiasi Cha 6 us dollar trillion

Ila Kwa mwaka 2026, gap hilo limepungua na kuwa 3 us dollar trillion

Lakini hilo issue sana
Issue ni Kasi ya ukuwaji wa uchumi, IMF inakadiliwa ifikapo mwaka 2026 Kasi ya ukuaji wa uchumi wa marekani itaporomoka na kufikia 1.6% kutoka kwenye 3.5%
Wakati upande wa china Kasi ya ukuaji wa uchumi itashuka na kufikia 4.8% kutoka 5.57%

Sasa Kwa mwaka 2022 marekani imepigwa gap la Kasi ya ukuaji Kwa kiwango Cha 2.07% wakati Kwa mwaka 2026 marekani itakuwa imepigwa gap la ukuaji wa uchumi Kwa kiwango Cha 3.2%

Hii inaonesha kuwa kadri miaka inavyokwenda Kasi ya ukuaji wa uchumi wa marekani inasinyaa wakati Kwa upande wa china inaonekana kuchanua hivyo unaweza ukakadilia Kwa takwimu hizo ifikapo 2030 huenda china ikaizidi marekani kiuchumi

Na ukishakuwa mbabe upande wa uchumi ushawishi wako unaongezeka hivyo unakuwa na nafsi kubwa ya kuwa super power wa Dunia kama alivyo marekani sasaivi

Sasa kupitia hilo marekani haitaki kukubali kuja kuwa chini ya yoyote na haipo tayari itafanya Kila lowezekanalo kuhakikisha hilo halitokei, na ndio maana binafsi naona china Bado haijakwepa mtego wa marekani

Lazima marekani ifanye juu chini kuhakikisha china inaingia kwenye mgogoro ili ukuaji wake kiuchumi ushuke, kwahiyo ili china iingie kwenye mgogoro marekani ataishawishi Taiwan ijitangazie uhuru wake alafu tuone kama china ataivamia Taiwan

Kama china ataivamia Taiwan maana yake malengo ya marekani yametiki

Ila kama hataivamia Taiwan maana yake amekubali kuipoteza na kama ataipoteza Kwa kuiacha taiwan iwe huru, basi tutamuona marekani akipeleka Kambi za kijeshi na kumwaga silaha Kali Kali na hivyo kuwa mwiba Kwa usalama wa china

Kwahiyo china inawakati mgumu sana wa kimaamuzi ngoja tuone itaamuaje

Nini maoni yako?
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🇨🇳🇺🇲 Pelosi's landing in Taiwan, first results:

1. To be honest, we did not fully believe that she would decide on it. Including because even Biden, not to mention the many American elites tied to cooperation with China, disowned this provocation.

2. It is strange that someone expected a strike on the plane - from the very beginning it was clear that China's response would be, at least for now, in the diplomatic plane. Or in the military-diplomatic, but, of course, there is no talk of a war with the United States.

3. For Russia, this development of the plot is simply ideal, because without China it would not be easy to hybridize against the West, and the extremely ambitious Xi, at the head of a billion-strong, disciplined and patriotic population, will never forgive this insult. And the best form of response is not to get involved in a direct clash with the United States, to harm them where it will be especially noticeable. Of course, this primarily concerns the increase in assistance to Russia in terms of circumventing Western sanctions.

4. With all our criticality to what is happening, we evaluate this particular case as a "overcome",

5. "Zrada" would be China's consent to Pelosi's visit and the Sino-American "reset".

6. The story is just beginning. Thanks to the grandmother for driving the last nail into the lid of the unipolar world, showing that the US is not going to reckon with China, which, according to all forecasts, is becoming the scientific and economic locomotive of the planet.

🔗Mig41
 
Champagnee said:
Oyaaa China katupiga na kitu kizito leo[emoji23][emoji23][emoji23]
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Kuna Australia, kuna Uk.

Kisiwa cha Solomon kimeingia mkataba wa kupatiwa ulinzi na China. Makubaliano haya UK,US na Australia waliyapigia kelele ni tishio kwa usalama wao. Maazimio yakapitishiwa waunde umoja wao wa kujihami ili kumdhibiti China ukanda huo.

Tuishie hapa tusije tukaharibu Uzi.
 
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