Special Thread: Yanayojiri Mgogoro wa Ukraine na Urusi. Nini chanzo na hatma ya mzozo?

Special Thread: Yanayojiri Mgogoro wa Ukraine na Urusi. Nini chanzo na hatma ya mzozo?

Lile daraja liungalo Crimea na Kherson linawaka muda huu
 
triga said:
Its only a matter of time...

1. Walisema vita ni uchumi na kwa uchumi wa Urusi asingeweza kupigana hata mwezi [emoji1787]
2. Walisema kwa vikwazo alivyowekewa ni suala la muda tu kabla Putin hajaondolewa madarakani kwa maandamano na raia wake [emoji1787]
3. Walisema Putin mgonjwa na amebakiza siku chache tu atakufwa [emoji1787]
4. Walisema sio tu donbass bali russia hawezi kuchukua hata inch moja zaidi ya territory ya ukraine na crimea watairudisha [emoji1787]
5. Walisema watagomea mafuta na gesi ya urusi wao pamoja na washirika wao. Kumkosesha Urusi pesa ya kupigana vita [emoji1787]
6. Walisema hawatolipia gesi ya Urusi kwa kutumia sarafu ya urusi [emoji1787]
6. Walisema... [emoji1787][emoji1787][emoji1787]

6 months and counting, alafu Putin anawajibu "wala hata hatufanya kitu chochote serious hapo Ukraine"

Mletee mykolaiv
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Tumeshajua west kwa Russia ni NOTHING. Kumbe walikua wanakopwa gas na mafuta[emoji23][emoji23]
 
Mnakumbuka yale ya Ghost of Kyiv kuna yule mpiga nyeto alikua mpaka anaitolea uchambuzi aisee kumbe hata haijawai kuexist zilikua video game. Leo hii wamekuja na HIMARS.

Kubishana na Tim rainbow kunataka moyo sana ndugu zangu[emoji23][emoji23][emoji23]
 
T14 Armata said:
South Ossetia si ni kama jimbo tu. Na sikusema haikushinda ila ilikuwa na performance mbovu sio level za kupigana na NATO. Russia ligi zake ni kupigana na jirani mwenye population ya watu milioni 20 hivi na uchumi mbovu. Chechnya ambalo ni eneo la ndani lilipigwa, hiyo hata Tanzania tunaweza. Georgia ukubwa wake unazidiwa na Tabora, kwahiyo superpower wenu mlimpa vyeo kisa kaipiga nchi inayozidiwa na Tabora? Maajabu!

Russia level zake ndio hizo. Haina maajabu kwenye mataifa yenye nguvu
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Mbona kadri siku zinavyozidi kwenda unakuwa mjinga mjinga
 
vunjo said:
Tazama hii kumbe ndio maana anaomba wafungwa kwa kiduku jeshi limeisha.Hiki kipigo ni cha kihistoria [emoji1787][emoji1787][emoji1787]View attachment 2331283View attachment 2331284
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Seriously unaamini hii taarifa ni kweli na unawaletea watu wenye akili zao!Kueni smart and diagnostic jamani,sio kila taarifa ni taarifa,this is fake news and junk.
 
ndammu said:
Kwanza shika adabu yako na adabu ikushike. Sikufumbua mdomo wangu kukutakunaka kabla.

Mama yangu alinizaaa niwepo hapa nilipo.

Kama unaona amekosa kunizaa jipige dole lá vutu halafu nusa dole lako uvute harufu.

Mjinga mmoja nyie ndio mnaosikia mamazenu wako chumban na babayako na kutoka nje kwenda kuutangazia umma.

Endelea na matusi yako kwa kuwatukana watu wasiokutukana kabla.

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Haya hii yamoto kabisa leo hii "Another Rusian ammunition depot exploding in occupied Donetsk" SABOTAGE [emoji38][emoji38][emoji38][emoji38]

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Mathanzua said:
Seriously unaamini hii taarifa ni kweli na unawaletea watu wenye akili zao!Kueni smart and diagnostic jamani,sio kila taarifa ni taarifa,this is fake news and junk.
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Urusi anatembezewa mkong'oto [emoji12][emoji12]
 
T14 Armata said:
Ujerumani inawauzia Israel aina fulani ya diesel electric submarines zenye AIP system zile Dolphin class. Hizo subs hazikaribiwi na poor subs za Russia zile Kilo class. Hiyo Israel ndio mwalimu wa Russia kwenye drones. Israel huyo ndio bingwa wa kuharibu na kukwepa air defence system za Urusi. Maeneo yote ambayo silaha za Mrusi na zinakutana na za Muisraeli silaha za Urusi zifiche tu. Tumeziona vizuri Nagorno Karabhak. Sasa Israel haijawahi nunua silaha mbovu au kwa mtu mjinga asiyejua.

Ujerumani imetoa Gepard anti aircraft gun system kwa Ukraine. Hizo Gepard ilishaacha kuzitumia ikisema ni za zamani wala sio hadhi yake. Cha ajabu bado zinalitishia jeshi la Russia na Ukraine iliziomba.

Ujerumani imetoa Pz2000 ambayo ni the best howitzer waliyopokea Ukraine. Ogopa sana Ukraine wakipokea silaha kwa msaada kisha wakachangishana harambee kununua idadi nyingine ya silaha hiyo. Pz2000 ni bora kuliko French Caesar, Swedish Archer na yoyote aliyo nayo Marekani.

Imetoa silaha nyingi ndogo kama DM22 directional anti tank mines zenye uwezo wa kushangaza. Panzerfaust 3 ATGM ambazo ni nyepesi kuliko Javelin. Kuna mines nyingine, na silaha nyingi.

Rheinmetall kampuni ya Ujerumani ndio ilijenga Mulino, kituo kipya cha mafunzo ya jeshi cha Urusi. Hakuna yeyote pale Russia angejenga kituo kama hicho, Urusi walikuwa na vituo vya kizee ambavyo havina hata simulation capabilities.
Bado Rheinmetall inatengeneza silaha za uwezo mkubwa kama Leopard MBT.

Kulinganisha jeshi la Ukraine dhidi ya Ujerumani ni mchana na usiku. Ujerumani haiwezi tumia silaha yeyote made in Ukraine, ni silaha duni sana kwao. Vilevile haiwezi tumia silaha nyingi ambazo ziko deployed na Ukraine. Ukraine ina Su-27 na Mig-29 ambazo ni 3rd gen jets za miaka ya 70 uko wakati Ujerumani ina 4th gen Eurofighter Typhoon ambazo ndege ya kwanza imetengenezwa 2003.

Ukraine haina navy wakati Germany ina wargships na subs. East Germany ilikuwa na silaha ambazo ilizigawa kwa former Soviet block members miaka ya 80 na 90 uko. Mfano BMP-1 ilizipa modifications kubwa ikazipeleka Sweden kisha Czech Republic.View attachment 2330591 Vita hii Ukraine ikaziomba na Wajerumani wakatoa ruhusa hizo junks ziende Ukraine. Wao hawawezi tumia kazi mbovu vile katafute IFV na APC wanazotumia na wanazodevelop.

Kuhusu morali ya kupigana na mwamko, hilo kajifunze kwanini Nazi Germany ilipozimavia Poland, France na USSR kwanini Britain na US zilikuja kuwasaidia. Huwezi linganisha Ujerumani na Ukraine. Huijui Ujerumani kwa kuwa haipigi kelele kama Russia. Unaamini kwenye kelele kuliko ukimya
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Ni kweli penyewe
 
Let’s talk about the daily attacks on Crimea.

The Ukrainian military attempts to “strike” Crimea multiple times a day using various drones, usually rigged with explosives, sometimes not rigged with anything.

All of them are unsurprisingly shot down. Crimea is a fortress. Crimea’s Air Defence umbrella is extremely good, you can go as far as calling it the best in the world. At the moment, there’s no other place on earth as heavily defended from air attacks (other than Russian mainland) as Crimea. However, it is extremely easy to get cocky and forget that no air defense system is perfect & every air defence system can be penetrated. This is a mistake many analysts make, they assume Crimea is untouchable. - it is not, it never will be.

These “meaningless, desperate” drone “attacks” by Ukraine are not actually meant to cause damage, they’re meant to find holes in Russia’s air defences — under strict NATO watch. Americans and Brits observe every interception by Russian Air Defence systems in Crimea. They are clueless about Russian Air Defences in a combat setting. Russia’s domestic systems are only showing their true capabilities now.

Every interception gives them more data and more information on how to break it. Ukraine is doing this for 2 reasons:

1. Domestic propaganda

As Ukraine fails to gain any success on the front lines, launching drones at the “occupiers” make headlines every single time in Ukraine. The regime supporters rejoice, Zelensky looks strong and determined.

2. NATO orders

Let’s not forget that the US, EU & UK are not providing “help” to Ukraine. They are lending them money, with interest. Every bullet and weapon has its tab. This will take decades to pay back. — in turn, the Americans want data. They want a lot of data. They want every piece of data they can get. Data on Russian missiles, air defence systems, operational structure, Russian gear and especially, russian radars and their capabilities.

This shows that NATO is simply clueless about Russia’s Air Defence capabilities, even when we’re talking about Pantsir S1 and Buk M1, as well as the S300. The domestic versions of these systems differ drastically from the export versions we saw in action in the Syrian war and elsewhere.

There’s no doubt in our minds that they will figure out a way to break the Crimean AD umbrella, but it will be short lived. While these systems can be overwhelmed, they cannot be overwhelmed to a large extent unless they are destroyed.

Russia is not using any of its newest systems to intercept these drones, they are using the domestic variants of systems we already saw working in Syria and in other conflicts — but those were all the export variants. Russian domestic systems are clearly much, much more capable than their export variants. When Ukraine and NATO figures out how to effectively overwhelm the current umbrella, Russia has another 3 generations of systems that NATO has never seen in action before.

The systems fielded by NATO are still behind the S1, M1 & S300 in every aspect. 3 generations behind.

Air Defence is Russia’s strong suit and always has been, but don’t assume that Crimea cannot be hit, that is simply stupidity. It will be hit, it is just a matter of time.

T.me/asbmil
 
Tazama live wanajeshi wa super power walivyo surrender leo hii hata nguvu za kukimbia hawana[emoji1787][emoji1787][emoji1787][emoji1787]
Waje waseme hii game gani???

 
Shaban Swaleh said:
Let’s talk about the daily attacks on Crimea.

The Ukrainian military attempts to “strike” Crimea multiple times a day using various drones, usually rigged with explosives, sometimes not rigged with anything.

All of them are unsurprisingly shot down. Crimea is a fortress. Crimea’s Air Defence umbrella is extremely good, you can go as far as calling it the best in the world. At the moment, there’s no other place on earth as heavily defended from air attacks (other than Russian mainland) as Crimea. However, it is extremely easy to get cocky and forget that no air defense system is perfect & every air defence system can be penetrated. This is a mistake many analysts make, they assume Crimea is untouchable. - it is not, it never will be.

These “meaningless, desperate” drone “attacks” by Ukraine are not actually meant to cause damage, they’re meant to find holes in Russia’s air defences — under strict NATO watch. Americans and Brits observe every interception by Russian Air Defence systems in Crimea. They are clueless about Russian Air Defences in a combat setting. Russia’s domestic systems are only showing their true capabilities now.

Every interception gives them more data and more information on how to break it. Ukraine is doing this for 2 reasons:

1. Domestic propaganda

As Ukraine fails to gain any success on the front lines, launching drones at the “occupiers” make headlines every single time in Ukraine. The regime supporters rejoice, Zelensky looks strong and determined.

2. NATO orders

Let’s not forget that the US, EU & UK are not providing “help” to Ukraine. They are lending them money, with interest. Every bullet and weapon has its tab. This will take decades to pay back. — in turn, the Americans want data. They want a lot of data. They want every piece of data they can get. Data on Russian missiles, air defence systems, operational structure, Russian gear and especially, russian radars and their capabilities.

This shows that NATO is simply clueless about Russia’s Air Defence capabilities, even when we’re talking about Pantsir S1 and Buk M1, as well as the S300. The domestic versions of these systems differ drastically from the export versions we saw in action in the Syrian war and elsewhere.

There’s no doubt in our minds that they will figure out a way to break the Crimean AD umbrella, but it will be short lived. While these systems can be overwhelmed, they cannot be overwhelmed to a large extent unless they are destroyed.

Russia is not using any of its newest systems to intercept these drones, they are using the domestic variants of systems we already saw working in Syria and in other conflicts — but those were all the export variants. Russian domestic systems are clearly much, much more capable than their export variants. When Ukraine and NATO figures out how to effectively overwhelm the current umbrella, Russia has another 3 generations of systems that NATO has never seen in action before.

The systems fielded by NATO are still behind the S1, M1 & S300 in every aspect. 3 generations behind.

Air Defence is Russia’s strong suit and always has been, but don’t assume that Crimea cannot be hit, that is simply stupidity. It will be hit, it is just a matter of time.

T.me/asbmil
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But remember this; Russia suffer great loss in this war since WW2[emoji12][emoji12]
 
vunjo said:
Tazama live wanajeshi wa super power walivyo surrender leo hii hata nguvu za kukimbia hawana[emoji1787][emoji1787][emoji1787][emoji1787]
Waje waseme hii game gani???

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