Special Thread: Yanayojiri Mgogoro wa Ukraine na Urusi. Nini chanzo na hatma ya mzozo?

[Mathanzua]

Wazee wa mobilization war leo wanapeleka mafuta na milk tanker[emoji1787][emoji1787][emoji1787]View attachment 2364325

Hivi nani anaweza kuamini taarifa kama hii kweli,labda a lunatic.Muwe serious vijana,mbona mnalisha watu upupu?Vijana vipi?Hivi mkileta taarifa nzuri ya kuaminika what do you loose.Na ukileta taarifa ya uongo,halafu watu wakaiamini,unapata faida gani hasa?

 

[kp kipanya44]

Wazee wa mobilization war leo wanapeleka mafuta na milk tanker[emoji1787][emoji1787][emoji1787]View attachment 2364325

Kipigo kinazidi kuwa kikali mkuu,wasamehewe tu[emoji2]

 

[Mavindozii]

Ukraine and its Western allies played down Moscow’s mobilization announcement, calling it a move to make up for its battlefield losses.

Wamemshika Putin , Pumbune .

 

[Jesus Mlokozi]

Kwa ufupi.

Ilimchukua USA miaka ishirini kupigana Vietnam, wengi mpaka leo hawajui USA alikuwa anataka nini kwenye hio vita. Kwa ufupi alichokuwa anataka ni kutetea maslahi mapana ya wananchi wema wa Vietnam kama alivyofanya south Korea. Unakuta lijitu linacheka Marekani kutotimiza agenda zake Vietnam, laiti kama angejua ni bithaa, gadget za aina ngapi tumekosa: another Samsung, or LG dunia imekosa asingefurahia madudu yanayofanywa na mwadamu kwa kigezo cha sera za Ujamaa.

Je Urusi yupo tayari kupigana mda huo bila kutumia nukes?

Kipimo kipi kilikuonesha USA alikuwa akitetea raia wema!? You are stupid.

 

[vunjo]

Ni kweli Mrusi haijaanza kutumia Jeshi lake "Elite," hao inawezekana ni Mercenaries au Contractors Kama hiyo story ni kweli,maana it could be fake.

Kila kitu kwenu cha kuonesha Rusia kupoteza ni fake[emoji1787][emoji1787][emoji1787]

 

[vunjo]

Hivi nani anaweza kuamini taarifa kama hii kweli,labda a lunatic.Muwe serious vijana,mbona mnalisha watu upupu?Vijana vipi?Hivi mkileta taarifa nzuri ya kuaminika what do you loose.Na ukileta taarifa ya uongo,halafu watu wakaiamini,unapata faida gani hasa?

Sasa uongo uko wapi picha ya gari hiyo na imebeba mafuta brother vip kila mtu aheshim source ya mwenzie unaleta taarifa zako za telegram groups mbona tunasoma tu[emoji1787][emoji1787][emoji1787][emoji1787]

 

[Cash Generating Unit]

Kwa ufupi.

Ilimchukua USA miaka ishirini kupigana Vietnam, wengi mpaka leo hawajui USA alikuwa anataka nini kwenye hio vita. Kwa ufupi alichokuwa anataka ni kutetea maslahi mapana ya wananchi wema wa Vietnam kama alivyofanya south Korea. Unakuta lijitu linacheka Marekani kutotimiza agenda zake Vietnam, laiti kama angejua ni bithaa, gadget za aina ngapi tumekosa: another Samsung, or LG dunia imekosa asingefurahia madudu yanayofanywa na mwadamu kwa kigezo cha sera za Ujamaa.

Je Urusi yupo tayari kupigana mda huo bila kutumia nukes?

Endelea kudanganywa shekhe!! Na Libya kule vipi??

 

[Mpinzire]

wewe unasema jeshi kamili la urusi halijaenda vitani.
taarifa zinaonyesha wanajeshi kutoka Syria waliishaitwa.
wanajeshi kutoka kazakkstan waliishaitwa.

S400 zilizopelekwa syria ziliisha rudishwa.
mitambo ya ulinzi kalinigrad ishapelekwa uwanja wa mapambano

now 300,000

Yani walioitwa toka syrea ni wanajeshi wa kirusi au? Embu karudi tena kwenye vyanzo vyako habar

 

[Mathanzua]

The US/NATO/Europe-Ukraine/Russia war is multifaceted.Yes it is about destroying Russia,but it is also about destroying Europe and trying to save the US Dollar from collapse as a Global Currency.Listen to this clip and get this very insightful information.

Situation Update, Sep 21, 2022 - Plum Island tick-based bioweapons: USDA and DoD secret research programs for mass EXTERMINATION

0:00 Red Alert12:40 China49:09 Mark Baker- Secret bioweapons research was conducted at the Plum Island facility decades ago- It involved the #USDA , DoD and the CIA- They weaponized TICKS to be dropped onto cattle populations in Cuba and Russia- The goal was to wipe out the food supply of enemy...

www.brighteon.com

 

[dong yi]

Huu ni kwa ufahamisho tu kwa wale wanaoshangaa Marekani kuisidia Ukraine...

Wakati wa vita vikuu vya pili vya dunia Wajerumani chini ya Fuhrer Adolf Hitler aliyekuwa na wazo la kuitawala dunia, waliivamia Urusi mwezi June, 1941 kwa lengo la kuiteka kama Urusi inavyofanya sasa huko Ukraine.

Waamerika hawakukaa kimya baada ya kuona Urusi ikiivamiwa na hivyo mwezi December, 1941 waliamua kuisaidia Urusi kwa kupeleka silaha na vifaa vya kivita kuisaidia Urusi kama inavyofanya hivi sasa katika kuisaidia Ukraine.

Marekani si kama baadhi yenu msiojua historia mnavyodhani. Marekani ni nchi ya dunia yote na tunachoshuhudia hapa hi historia ikijirudia. Wana JF wenzangu, Urusi kama ilivyo haijawahi kutoa msaada kama huo kwa Wamarekani.

Hii ni changamoto tu kwenu ambao kwa bahati mbaya historia iliwapita kushoto.
Kwa namna ile ile Hilter aliivamia Urusi ndivyo Putin alivyoivamia Ukraine.

of all the people wewe ndio unatu-lecture hapa kuhusu US kuwa wa dunia yote?[emoji23][emoji23][emoji23][emoji23],

kuna kipindi nilikua najua ni jamaa flani well informed, ila baada ya biden kuingia madarakani nikajua kumbe ni lijamaa liberal flani, lenyewe msm na kila propaganda zao!,

btw, how is biden doing ukilinganisha na adui yako trump?......... nyie us fanatics mnafurahisha sana

 

[triga]

Nimeshaachana nae huyo,kila kitu anasema propaganda lkn yeye hatoi hoja yoyote yenye mashiko

Wewe hata hoja yenye mashiko sidhani kama unaijua. Propaganda ukiileta lazima tuiseme hiyo ni propaganda. Uzuri ni kwamba zinajionesha zenyewe hatutumii nguvu sana.

Kusema operation ya urusi imeenda/inaenda isivyopangwa ni hoja yenye mashiko au ni propaganda!?

Unatumia kigezo cha mobilization kuhitimisha kwamba Op imeenda mrama. Eti kwa sababu Putin kaitisha mobilization ni ushahidi kwamba op yake imeenda kombo visivyotarajiwa. Very illogical!

Lazima kwanza utuambie relationship ya mobilization na op ni ipi mpk ufikie hitimisho hilo. Hiyo ndio namna ya kuleta hoja yenye mashiko. Ni kwa vipi mobilization inatatua tatizo la operation kwenda south!? Yaani operation ikifeli ndio solution yake ni mobilization!? How!?

Unashindwa kujibu swali hili kwa sababu huwezi kuestablish relationship kati ya partial mobilization na Operation inayoendelea. Conclusion yako ile inakosa premises za msingi. Simply ni mihemko tu imekufikisha kuhitimisha hivyo.

Pia unabisha kwamba Putin na Lavrov wanavyosema mambo yanakwenda kama walivyopanga hawasemi kweli. How do you know!? Umejuaje kwamba mambo yanavyoenda hivi ni tofauti na wao walivyopanga!? Unajua walipanga mambo yaendeje!? Unaijua Original plan ya operation ni ipi mpk ufikie kusema inakwenda tofauti!? Huku mimi ndio naita kuforce. Unaforce kingi.

Endelea kuforce

 

[Mag3]

Kipimo kipi kilikuonesha USA alikuwa akitetea raia wema!? You are stupid.

Sasa wewe Jesus, labda unaweza kutuambia USA alifuata nini Vietnam? Kweli haikushangazi hata kidogo unapoona maendeleo ya Korea Kusini? China mwenyewe baada ya Mao Tse Tung waliamua kuwa kila mwaka wanapeleka vijana wasiopungua 200,000 kusoma Marekani.

Pamoja na baadhi ya vijana hao kuzamia huko Marekani lakini waliorudi China walipokelewa kama Wafalme na kupewa mitaji mikubwa mikubwa watumie akili walizopata huko kufungua viwanda vya teknolojia. Huo ndio msingi wa maendeleo ya teknolojia huko China.

Hadi leo hii China ndio inaongoza kwa kuwapeleka vijana kusoma Marekani na wakirudi wanakuwa mtaji mkubwa. Linalowaangusha China ni udanganyifu hasa pale wanapotengeneza bidhaa zisizo na viwango na kuvisukumiza kwa nchi masikini kama zetu.

Halafu sisi kama mazezeta tunapokea tu...thubutu hizo bidhaa zikanyage Marekani. Bidhaa za kutoka China kwenda Marekani ni bidhaa zenye viwango bora kabisa. Halafu tunasifia uchumi wa China na kusahau ni sisi hao hao tunaokuza huo uchumi kwa kuagiza bidhaa feki.

 

[Ubena Zomozi]

Voting ballots for the referendum on the entry of the LPR into the Russian federation have been printed and are ready for the voters.

Smart911 Lavit

 

[Sigonella Island]

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[The 13]

Yeah,sikulaumu,huna taarifa kamili kuhusu hii vita.Lakini I do not know how you missed it,kwa kuwa sababu kwa nini Urusi wameivamia Ukraine zimekuwa discussed sana hapa JF,na zinaonyesha wazi kwamba Urusi wana haki kabisa ya kuivamia Ukraine.

Kuhusu taarifa kwamba Urusi wamenunua Drones kutoka Iran nimesikia,lakini sijawahi kuona uthibitisho,kama unao lete,otherwise itabaki kuwa fake news.

Mi sijaona maana zile fix amezitumia kuivamia chenchenia,Georgia, na saivi Ukraine,2014 ime yang'anya Crimea,now Donbas na luhask, yale ni mazoe mabaya kwenye nchi za watu .nini nilicho kosa mkuu?

 

[Sigonella Island]

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[The 13]

Pole kijana ukikua utabishana na watu kwa hoja na uelewa wamaswali na majibu

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We ndo Ukuwe uje uelewe kuwa mapeledi na ya silaha si kitu ndani wanja wa vita.

 

[The 13]

We jamaa kwa mihemko ni next level! Ni wapi na lini Putin alitaka wanajeshi wa ukraine wamng'oe raisi wao!? Source!?
Umeona ulivyo na mihemko

Hilo swali lako ni vague na irrelevant. Hakuna uhusiano wowote wa Operation kwenda mrama na mobilization. Nilikuuliza hukujibu kwa sababu sijui hukuelewa. Ni kwa vipi mobilization inatatua tatizo la operation kwenda south!? Yaani operation ikifeli ndio solution yake ni mobilization!? How!?

Kubali tu mkuu unaforce

Kuna pahali pa kuchanganya na zako. Sio kila unachoambiwa uchanganye na chako. Huo utakuwa ni ujuaji na utakugharimu siku moja. Ukienda hospitali ukaambiwa unaumwa malaria unywe amoxilin inabidi ufate kama ulivyoambiwa. Ukijidai kuchanganya na zako mwisho wake hautakuwa mzuri.

Eti Putin ana Fix wewe ndio mkweli [emoji1787].

Rudia kwenye ile hutuba wakati anatangaza vita na Ukraine.aliwaambia waweke siha chini maana yake wakaidi amri ya Raisi.

 

[mixx]

Ukrainian Deputy Defense Minister Gavrilov said that US military companies can use the conflict in Ukraine to test their pilot projects, and a number of firms are already doing this.

In July, Ukrainian Defense Minister Reznikov said his country had become a "proving ground" and invited Western arms manufacturers to test new products on the battlefield against Russia.

 

[Mag3]

of all the people wewe ndio unatu-lecture hapa kuhusu US kuwa wa dunia yote?[emoji23][emoji23][emoji23][emoji23],

kuna kipindi nilikua najua ni jamaa flani well informed, ila baada ya biden kuingia madarakani nikajua kumbe ni lijamaa liberal flani, lenyewe msm na kila propaganda zao!,

btw, how is biden doing ukilinganisha na adui yako trump?......... nyie us fanatics mnafurahisha sana

dong yi: Natumaini wewe ni Mtanzania kama mimi. Katika makabila zaidi ya 130 yaliyoko Tanzania, zaidi ya makabila 100 yanawakilishwa Marekani ukianzia na kabila kubwa la Wasukuma, kuna Wamarekani Wasukuma kibao! Kabila dogo kama Datore nalo kuna Wamarekani Wadatore. Ni hayo tu!