Special Thread: Yanayojiri Mgogoro wa Ukraine na Urusi. Nini chanzo na hatma ya mzozo?

[Nyamizi]

Meza ndefuuu..... ya Vladimir Putin mojawapo ya vituko vitakavyo kumbukwa vita vya Ukraine.
Putin says: Can you hear me now?
Macron shouts : I cant hear you ,come again Vladimir!

Yani wanamuogopa kama Mungu wao,nina wasi wasi huwa wanamsujudia kabisa.

 

[Nyamizi]

Kidnapped Mayor rescued in"Special Operation".

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Slava Ukrain ✊

 

[kajekudya]

Huyu Rais wa UKRAINE yeye anachojua ni kuhutubia mabunge ya nchi mbalimbali, amekata tamaa

Hata Mimi nilikuwa najiuliza, ina maana UKraine hawana bunge. Au wote na bwana Zelenzesky wapo mafichoni.
Halafu WANATO walivyo washenzi ukute hata hotuba wanamuandikia.

 

[Neter]

China Hits Back At NATO For Russia Demand​

Beijing will never forget who bombed its embassy in Belgrade, mission to the EU said Beijing dismissed NATO calls for it not to support Russia in any way on Thursday, reminding the bloc it was their forces who bombed the Chinese embassy in Belgrade during its 1999 air campaign in Yugoslavia. “Chinese people can fully relate to the pains and sufferings of other countries because we will never forget who had bombed our embassy in the Federal Republic of Yugoslavia. We need no lecture on justice from the abuser of international law,” a spokesman for the Beijing’s diplomatic mission to the EU said, responding to remarks made by NATO Secretary General Jens Stoltenberg. Branding NATO a “Cold War remnant,” the diplomat suggested the organization needed to do some self-reflection to examine if it was contributing to world peace and stability, with its expansion and military operations. Stoltenberg targeted China on Tuesday ahead of a NATO defense ministers’ emergency meeting. He suggested Beijing should “join the rest of the world in condemning strongly the brutal invasion of Ukraine by Russia” and said that any kind of support for Moscow now would help it “to continue to wage war which is causing death, suffering and an enormous amount of destruction.” “China has an obligation as a member of the UN Security Council to actually support and uphold international law,” he added. Russia’s attack against Ukraine, which it launched in late February, was partially justified by NATO’s creeping expansion. Moscow said it posed an increasing threat to its national security that had to be eliminated after the US and its allies refused to deescalate the situation peacefully. Russia also said it had to protect rebels in eastern Ukraine from continued attacks by Ukrainian government forces. Beijing voiced support for Ukraine’s territorial integrity, but agreed with Moscow’s rationale, saying that NATO’s European expansion was clearly provocative. China refused to impose sanctions against Russia and criticized nations that did so, calling such measures illegal and damaging to the world economy. An American B-2 bomber hit the Chinese embassy in Belgrade at around midnight on May 7, 1999, killing three Chinese journalists and injuring some 20 people. The targeting was done by the CIA, which later claimed it wanted to provide coordinates for a nearby military depot. President Bill Clinton apologized for the attack, calling it an accident. NATO launched the 1999 bombing campaign against Yugoslavia without authorization from the UN Security Council, where both Russia and China vetoed all attempts. The military action was justified by a need to protect rebels in Kosovo from continued attacks by Yugoslav forces. China hits back at NATO for Russia demand https://www.rt.com/news/552122-nato-bombing-chinese-embassy/

 

[Tsh]

Kama unaweza kuweka kwenye PDF hoja na majibu ya member Warusi wazalendo humu JF ukaanza zipitia upya moja baada ya nyingine utagundua kuwa tangu day 1, wana expectation kubwa mno. Wanatamani lishuke bomu moja limalize kila kitu wamtukuze Mrusi ila Puttin anawaangusha.

Mmoja alisifia maamuzi ya Puttin kushambulia maeneo yenye makazi Sasa hivi huyo huyo ameshasahau anasema warusi wana utu sana hahawezi piga sehemu yenye watu hii ni operation sio vita.

 

[Sigonella Island]

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[Frank Wanjiru]

Kuna mambo mengine ni vigumu kuepukika!Ni sawa na Leo US amshawishi Taiwani ajiunge NATO na US akaweke base yake ya kijeshi!Unadhani China atakubali?Itatokea vita nyingine!
Suluhu Kwa mgogoro huu ni Ukraine kuacha Mpango wake wa kujiunga NATO na yawepo makubaliano ya kudumu!Sio akija Rais mwingine ajiamulie vinginevyo!

China hatii mguu Taiwan maana U.S ana mutual assurance agreement na Taiwan pindi pale Taiwan itakaposhambuliwa U.S inaingia moja kwa moja kumsaidia.

 

[Bome-e]

China hatii mguu Taiwan maana U.S ana mutual assurance agreement na Taiwan pindi pale Taiwan itakaposhambuliwa U.S inaingia moja kwa moja kumsaidia.

Mwambie US akaweke military base pale Taiwan ndio utaelewa ninachozungumza!

 

[Nyamizi]

Hawa majenerali bila kumpindua Putin na kumuua wataendelea kupelekwa kupigana vita vya kiduanzi ambavyo havina kichwa Wala miguu.Wao ndio wahanga wa kupoteza maisha au kupelekwa kushtakiwa kwenye mahakama za uhalifu wa kivita😠

Wanaishi kwa mashaka makuu kisa wendawazimu wa mtu mmoja

 

[Nyamizi]

Wewe nae uwe unaona aibu,kila kitu kwako ni propaganda ila unacholeta wewe unalazimisha watu tukiunge mkono. Punguza upumbavu na ujuaji,shwaini.

😂😂😂

 

[Frank Wanjiru]

namuona Magomed Tushayev [emoji23][emoji23]

Hahahaha huyu ndio alidandia kwa mbwembwe ugomvi usiomuhusu.

 

[Frank Wanjiru]

Mwanzoni walikuwa wanabisha ,wakawa wanasema ni propaganda.Sasa hivi watapita hapa kimya kimya kama hawaoni 🙂

Wanapita kimya kimya kama kafa shoga vile.

 

[Frank Wanjiru]

Mkuu hizi picha zingine ni aibu kuleta hapa, nenda katafute source ya hii picha na ya mwaka gani ujionee.

Ndio tatizo lako,unataka yale yanayokufurahisha wewe tuu

 

[Morogoro kaskazini]

Unmanned Aerial Vehicle (UAV) ni topic ndefu yenye vipande vingi. Humo kuna unmanned combat aerial vehicles (UCAV) ambazo ndio unazisema hapa kina Predator. Kuna loitering munitions, kamikaze drones na hata hizi DJI Mavic za harusini nazo ni UAVs.

S-300 haizuii loitering munitions au kamikaze drone. Inaweza zuia high flying drones kama Predator. Ukianza tumia muda kueleza ni UAV zipi zinazuilika na S-300 na ni zipi sio kazi yake ni kazi ndefu ila UAVs nyingi haziko kwenye category ya kuzuiwa na S-300. Mfano Russia hana drone yeyote ya kuzuia na S-300, ukisema anayo Orion basi hujazingatia cost benefit analysis ambayo ni muhimu kwenye silaha. Jeshi halitumii milioni 100 kuharibu zana ya milioni 30.

Huwezi itaka S-300 izuie kama hii Harop kwenye picha ambayo basically ni UAV, Azerbaijan iliuziwa ikazitumia dhidi ya Armenia na hizo S-300 zilikuwepo. Ile missile inayotoka kwenye S-300 ni gharama many times than hiyo drone isiyofika hata kilo 5.

UAVs nyingi zina usumbufu huwezi tumia system ya miaka ya 1980s uko eti ndio uzizuie. View attachment 2153964View attachment 2153965

tb2 za uturuki zaid ya 3 zimeshushwa kiev leo tu
hizi tb2 zimeonesha udhaifu mkubwa kwenye hii ops

 

[Nyamizi]

Hizi ndio mnazipenda ila kama zingesema jeshi la Urusi limekwama mngedai ni propaganda.

habari za RT ndiyo sahihi kwa mujibu wao😅

 

[triga]

Mojawapo ya mifumo ya ulinzi hiyo ni kuzuia makombora. Wakipewa drones zitaenda zuia artillery na MRLs. Sasa kama Ukraine wana TB2 peke yake wanaihangaisha hivi Urusi ingekuwaje wawe na drones za Israel.

Kwenye masuala ya armour tiyari anti tank missiles zinafanya maisha ya tank crews za Russia yawe magumu. MANPADS zimefanya helicopters zisahaulike kabisa. Ukraine anataka silaha za kwenda sambamba mambo ya kupigana ground yanakuwa ni kupambana sawa.

Hii vita ilitakiwa iwe imeisha kama Russia ni superpower na anapigana na ka Ukraine ambako ni the poorest country in Europe. Sasa unashindwa maskini kina Ukraine silaha zenyewe wanaombaomba uje uwezane na kina muungano wa kina Germany, France, UK, etc.

Wapi Ukraine wameihangaisha Urusi!? Kwa vigezo vipi!? Kuchukuliwa miji yao, mji mkuu wao kuzingirwa na kushambuliwa na mabomu, kuharibiwa miundombinu yao ya kijeshi na kiraia, kutekwa viongozi wao na kuvuliwa madaraka (i.e. mayor), kukamatwa kwa masilaha yao na yale waliyopewa kama msaada, Raia wao kuuliwa na mamilioni kukimbia nchi yao, kuzimika matarjio yao ya kujiunga na NATO, etc. Huko ndio kuihangaisha Urusi!? Mind you Ukraine ndio anapigana vita wenzao wapo kwenye Operation tu[emoji1787] Na hao west wanasema app. 90% ya silaha zilizokuwa deployed Ukr bado zipo. Sasa km 10% tu ndio zimearibika na matokeo ndio hayo sijui huko kuhangaishwa mnakokusemea ni kuhangaishwa kupi na hapo bado inaamikika bado sophisticated weapons hazijatumika!!

Vita ilitakiwa iwe imeisha na nani!? Wewe ndio ulitaka vita iwe imeisha!? Kama mpaka hapa hamtaki kuappreciate achievements za Rf kwenye hii operation sijui mnataka mpaka nini kitokee ndio mkubali? Au Unataka mpk ukraine wafe wote raia na wanajeshi na nchi iwe majivu!? Watu wanatengeneza corido za kibinaadamu kuruhusu raia watoke huku majadiliano bado yanaendelea kukiwa na possibility ya 'ceasefire' hayo yote yanachangia kuchelewesha na kupunguza mapigano nyie hamlioni hilo!? And no sir Ukraine sio poorest in europe. gdp nominal 22th, gdp ppp 16th unamdogosha hivyo ili uoneshe udhaifu wa Russia au!? Chambua mambo ya silaha unavyotaka taja kila aina ya kifaa pitia kila mtandao na iwe itavyokuwa mwishowe Russia ni world's military Superpower. He took crimea nobody said nothing. Now he's going to take the entire ukraine and again nobody will say a thang! Na Russia's military mighty utaiona pale Poland na USA wanarushiana mpira wa kupeleka ndegevita ukraine. Wangekuwa washapeleka ila wakifikiria Putin is unpredictable and right now he is all gas no brakes wanaishia kumbwela tu

"Russia is the only country on planet that makes the US think twice before doing something"

That is the pain in the axx kwa nyie Pro-west




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[Sikirimimimasikini]

Unmanned Aerial Vehicle (UAV) ni topic ndefu yenye vipande vingi. Humo kuna unmanned combat aerial vehicles (UCAV) ambazo ndio unazisema hapa kina Predator. Kuna loitering munitions, kamikaze drones na hata hizi DJI Mavic za harusini nazo ni UAVs....

Usitake kuruka viunzi, mie nafahamu fika kuwa kuna aina mbali mbali za UAV. Kwani ulipozungumza mwanzo kuwa S-300 haiwezi kuharibu UAV, ulikuwa hujui kuwa kuna aina mbalimbali za UAV?

 

[CARDLESS]

Ndio tatizo lako,unataka yale yanayokufurahisha wewe tuu

Mkuu, mbona kuna habari nyingi napokea na naziamini?? Ila nikiona ni ujinga lazima nikwambieni.

 

[Sigonella Island]

Russia kuzindua Instagram yao Russgram

 

[kikoozi]

Wapi Ukraine wameihangaisha Urusi!? Kwa vigezo vipi!? Kuchukuliwa miji yao, mji mkuu wao kuzingirwa na kushambuliwa na mabomu, kuharibiwa miundombinu yao ya kijeshi na kiraia, kutekwa viongozi wao na kuvuliwa madaraka (i.e. mayor), kukamatwa kwa masilaha yao na yale waliyopewa kama msaada, Raia wao kuuliwa na mamilioni kukimbia nchi yao, kuzimika matarjio yao ya kujiunga na NATO, etc. Huko ndio kuihangaisha Urusi!? Mind you Ukraine ndio anapigana vita wenzao wapo kwenye Operation tu[emoji1787] Na hao west wanasema app. 90% ya silaha zilizokuwa deployed Ukr bado zipo. Sasa km 10% tu ndio zimearibika na matokeo ndio hayo sijui huko kuhangaishwa mnakokusemea ni kuhangaishwa kupi na hapo bado inaamikika bado sophisticated weapons hazijatumika!!

Vita ilitakiwa iwe imeisha na nani!? Wewe ndio ulitaka vita iwe imeisha!? Kama mpaka hapa hamtaki kuappreciate achievements za Rf kwenye hii operation sijui mnataka mpaka nini kitokee ndio mkubali? Au Unataka mpk ukraine wafe wote raia na wanajeshi na nchi iwe majivu!? Watu wanatengeneza corido za kibinaadamu kuruhusu raia watoke huku majadiliano bado yanaendelea kukiwa na possibility ya 'ceasefire' hayo yote yanachangia kuchelewesha na kupunguza mapigano nyie hamlioni hilo!? And no sir Ukraine sio poorest in europe. gdp nominal 22th, gdp ppp 16th unamdogosha hivyo ili uoneshe udhaifu wa Russia au!? Chambua mambo ya silaha unavyotaka taja kila aina ya kifaa pitia kila mtandao na iwe itavyokuwa mwishowe Russia ni world's military Superpower. He took crimea nobody said nothing. Now he's going to take the entire ukraine and again nobody will say a thang! Na Russia's military mighty utaiona pale Poland na USA wanarushiana mpira wa kupeleka ndegevita ukraine. Wangekuwa washapeleka ila wakifikiria Putin is unpredictable and right now he is all gas no brakes wanaishia kumbwela tu

"Russia is the only country on planet that makes the US think twice before doing something"

That is the pain in the axx kwa nyie Pro-west




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