Special Thread: Yanayojiri Mgogoro wa Ukraine na Urusi. Nini chanzo na hatma ya mzozo?

[Sikirimimimasikini]

Mkuu T14 Armata , acha kuwalisha watu MatangoPori, sio kweli kuwa S-300 haina uwezo wa kuharibu UAV.

Kwani huwezi kupost pasi na kuweka habari za uongo au kusemea vitu usivyovijua?!

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S-300 | Missile Threat

The S-300 is a family of Russian-made surface-to-air missile (SAM) systems capable of engaging aircraft and UAVs in addition to providing some cruise and ballistic missile defense capability. The S-300P variant, also known as the SA-10 Grumble, was designed by the Soviet Union during the 1960s...

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Mkuu T14 Armata njoo hapa 👆👆👆👆 tuna jambo letu mie na wewe. Usijifanye mjanja kusoma kimya kimya😂🤣😂🙃

 

[Joannah]

Njia ya majadiliano ilikuwepo,lakini kumbuka wakati huo tayari Ukraine walikuwa wamepitisha Kwa kura kuomba kujiunga na NATO!
Bila kuwa mshabiki,Ukraine ndiye alikuwa wa kwanza kupiga hatua kuilazimisha Russia kufanya uvamizi!
Na aliyekuwa nyuma ya hayo yote anajulikana!
Kama muda ungerudi nyuma,sidhani kama Ukraine angeingia mkenge na kufanya uamuzi alioufanya,Mateso wanayopitia wananchi wa Ukraine hawastahili,maana ukifikiri sana inachopigania Ukraine,it's not worth the sacrifices!

Huyo aliyemwingiza mkenge na vimacho vyake vile ndio Maana na yeye Maduro kamuingiza mkenge

 

[simplemind]

Makombora ya mrusi hayajashusha uchangamfu na kujiamini ya waUkraine. Mwana dada anapiga wimbo maarafu wa Louis Armstrong_ what a wonderful world !

 

[Neter]

 

[President of China]

LIVE: Russian FM Lavrov & UAE Counterpart Al Nahyan Hold Presser After Talks in Moscow


Russian Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov and his UAE counterpart Abdullah bin Zayed Al Nahyan are holding a joint press conference following their bilateral meeting in Moscow.

Speaking on Thursday in Moscow, UAE Foreign Minister Abdullah bin Zayed Al Nahyan said that the UAE intends to develop ties with Russia on energy and food security. He added that UAE was looking to strengthen interaction with Russia and diversify ties.

 

[T14 Armata]

Mkuu T14 Armata , acha kuwalisha watu MatangoPori, sio kweli kuwa S-300 haina uwezo wa kuharibu UAV.

Kwani huwezi kupost pasi na kuweka habari za uongo au kusemea vitu usivyovijua?!

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S-300 | Missile Threat

The S-300 is a family of Russian-made surface-to-air missile (SAM) systems capable of engaging aircraft and UAVs in addition to providing some cruise and ballistic missile defense capability. The S-300P variant, also known as the SA-10 Grumble, was designed by the Soviet Union during the 1960s...

missilethreat.csis.org

Unmanned Aerial Vehicle (UAV) ni topic ndefu yenye vipande vingi. Humo kuna unmanned combat aerial vehicles (UCAV) ambazo ndio unazisema hapa kina Predator. Kuna loitering munitions, kamikaze drones na hata hizi DJI Mavic za harusini nazo ni UAVs.

S-300 haizuii loitering munitions au kamikaze drone. Inaweza zuia high flying drones kama Predator. Ukianza tumia muda kueleza ni UAV zipi zinazuilika na S-300 na ni zipi sio kazi yake ni kazi ndefu ila UAVs nyingi haziko kwenye category ya kuzuiwa na S-300. Mfano Russia hana drone yeyote ya kuzuia na S-300, ukisema anayo Orion basi hujazingatia cost benefit analysis ambayo ni muhimu kwenye silaha. Jeshi halitumii milioni 100 kuharibu zana ya milioni 30.

Huwezi itaka S-300 izuie kama hii Harop kwenye picha ambayo basically ni UAV, Azerbaijan iliuziwa ikazitumia dhidi ya Armenia na hizo S-300 zilikuwepo. Ile missile inayotoka kwenye S-300 ni gharama many times than hiyo drone isiyofika hata kilo 5.

UAVs nyingi zina usumbufu huwezi tumia system ya miaka ya 1980s uko eti ndio uzizuie.

 

[Lihakanga]

Awaombe NATO wawasaidie

 

[Mfilisiti]

Mkuu kuna watu wanasema Russia hatumii jeshi analotegemea (red army), angetumia hao Hali ingekuwa tofauti, kuna uk

Mkuu kuna watu wanasema Russia hatumii jeshi analotegemea (red army), angetumia hao Hali ingekuwa tofauti, kuna ukweli?

Ukweli ni kwamba jeshi halisi la Urusi "Redy Amy" limetulia tu huku wakishushia Vodka🥃🥃, wakiwasubiri NATO+USA wasogeze pua😀😃

 

[T14 Armata]

Mimi nmeona tangu 2015 hakuanza mwaka jana, kipindi hicho kuna article iliandikwa ni sababu ya KGB training maana hata wenzake aliokuwa nao km PM Medvedev alikuwa hivyo hivyo

Basi mimi nimenotice mwaka mpya 2021. Nilijiuliza nikajaribu kutafuta nikaona somewhere mtu mwingine kaspeculate ni dalili za deteriorating health. Wanae washasema nimetumia BBC na DW

 

[julaibibi]

Mkuu hizi picha zingine ni aibu kuleta hapa, nenda katafute source ya hii picha na ya mwaka gani ujionee.

yan huuy gaga zumba yey sijui analipwa?

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[T14 Armata]

Kwa mara ya kwanza nimeona TB2 ya Ukraine imeharibiwa. UAV ngumu nyie, Ukraine haifyatui ndege nyingine kiholela ila Bayraktar TB2 ziko angani kila muda

 

[Nyamizi]

Watakuja kukwambia BRICS, gesi na mafuta. Putin ni authoritarian na kawaida ya hawa ukiwaambia ukweli wanakutimua kazi, ukishafutwa kazi kwenye defense au intelligence community ya Russia ukiwa na cheo kikubwa basi wewe life expectancy inashuka.

Zelensky anakubalika sana na jeshi na ni mhunimhuni tu wala hajakaa kimadaraka, viongozi wake hata wa kijeshi wanamuelewa na hawamuogopi. We tazama wanadiplomasia aliotuma waende Belarus wengine wamevaa kapelo wengine majaketi ya mistari tofauti na wanyuka suti. Zelenskiy yuko approachable huna haja ya kumdanganya, jeshi lilimuhakikishia linaweza mount opposition mradi aweze kujiliza wampe silaha na alivyo Myahudi basi hicho ni kipaji chao. Ndio maana Marekani ilitaka imtoeoshe akagoma.
Wakati huo Putin intelligence community yake ilimwambia Ukraine kuna neo-Nazis tutawapiga, Zelenskiy hakubaliki na raia watalipokea jeshi la Urusi. Mambo yalipobadilika Putin akataka jeshi la Ukraine limpindue Rais wao.

Urusi haikujipanga, Ukraine tangu wanajeshi wake mwaka 2014 wajisalimishe pale Crimea bila kurusha hata risasi, then Donetsk na Luhansk zikatwaliwa basi nchi imejifunza kupambana. Haiwezekani ilikuwa inafanya mazoezi bure tu na kutumia gharama nyingi. Hata mauzo ya silaha iliyokuwa nayo imestop mfano Congo DRC ilikuwa imeagiza vifaru modification ya T-64 ila Ukraine wanazitumia wenyewe

Mkuu umeongea kitu kuhusu uvaaji wa delegation ya Ukrain kwenye mazungumzo,huko nyuma nilicoment kwa mzaha nikitania Warusi Wazee na misuti yao wakati Ukraine vijana wako casual na kikazi zaidi. Zelenskky anapewa uhalisia bila kuogopwa,wakati Putin watu wanafanya nae kikao wako 20m kutoka alipo yeye.Hakuna mtu anaetaka kupoteza maisha yake kisa kamuudhi Mungu mtu wa Russia.Watampa kile atakacho kukisikia.

 

[CARDLESS]

yan huuy gaga zumba yey sijui analipwa?

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Anaokota picha kifaru kina kutu, kimezama kwenye tope mpaka majani yameota hapo, afu anasema ni ya Juzi. [emoji3][emoji3][emoji3][emoji3]

 

[Sikirimimimasikini]

Uandishi wako mbovu, ndio maana hueleweki.

Tujaalie hivyo kuwa madai yako ni kuwa picha ya Head of the 5th Service of the FSB, Sergey Beseda, ndio haipatikani mtandaoni.

Mie nakuwekea hapa picha zake zipo clear na zapatikana mtandaoni.

Siku nyingine usikurupuke kuhitimisha mambo ambayo hujayafanyia utafiti wa kutosha

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T14 Armata uje hapa, usijifanye hujaona

T14 Armata tafadhali ukuje hapa👆👆👆👆, nilikuwekea picha za Head of the 5th Service of the FSB, Sergey Beseda, ambapo wewe ulidai kwenye stori zako kuwa hana picha mtandaoni.

Na ukajinadi kuwa wewe huwa ni mshindi ktk mechi za namna hii za kutafuta ukweli. Ukajigamba kuwa watu wa dizaini yangu mie, shuleni ulikuwa mnawekeana hela na kusaini nani anasimamia kipi kisha mnaenda tafuta ukweli. Na ukajigamba kuwa uliwashinda na ukala hela zao mpaka wakafikia hatua hawataki kubishana na wewe.

Sasa mbona nilipokuwekea picha uliishia kusoma kimya kimya na kukimbia mitini?!

Njoo uchukue ushindi uliozoea kuuchukua toka shule ya msingi hadi sasa🤣😂😅😂

 

[CARDLESS]

Huyu Rais wa UKRAINE yeye anachojua ni kuhutubia mabunge ya nchi mbalimbali, amekata tamaa

 

[chikutentema]

Huyu Rais wa UKRAINE yeye anachojua ni kuhutubia mabunge ya nchi mbalimbali, amekata tamaa

He is hopeless na majamaa yanaonekana yanamheshimu kumbe hakuna lolote

 

[Nyamizi]

Update: Urusi inatumia silaha za kizamani ambazo shabaha zake ni za kiwango cha chini
Wajeda zaidi ya 7,000 wa Urusi wameuawa kwenye vita
Majeshi ya Urusi yanasonga mbele kwa ugumu mno.
Wananchi wa Urusi hawapati update ya vita, Vyombo vya habari nchini mwao zinasifu tu haziwaonyeshi wananchi wake yanayotokea live vitani, vyombo vya habari haviko huru.

Hapa tunaletewa habari za RT na wanataka tuziamini moja kwa moja lakini hawataki kabisa kusikia habari kutoka CNN,BBC,REUTERS na sasa Al Jazeera na yeye anaonekana msaliti kwa Pro Russia wa JF.

 

[Frank Wanjiru]

[emoji3][emoji3][emoji3][emoji3][emoji3][emoji3][emoji3] Mkuu historia ina desturi ya kujirudia, before USA, UK ndio alikuwa SUPER POWER, nakuhakikishia huu ndio mwanza wa mwisho wa USUPER POWER WA USA.
Haitochukua hata miaka 20 kutoka sasa, tuombe uzima kwa Mungu. Ingawa mm nitakuwa around 60s ila nitakaa hapa kuchangia.

Hizi ndoto za alinacha zilianza tangu miaka ya 80s.

 

[Neter]

 

[simplemind]

Mkuu umeongea kitu kuhusu uvaaji wa delegation ya Ukrain kwenye mazungumzo,huko nyuma nilicoment kwa mzaha nikitania Warusi Wazee na misuti yao wakati Ukraine vijana wako casual na kikazi zaidi. Zelenskky anapewa uhalisia bila kuogopwa,wakati Putin watu wanafanya nae kikao wako 20m kutoka alipo yeye.Hakuna mtu anaetaka kupoteza maisha yake kisa kamuudhi Mungu mtu wa Russia.Watampa kile atakacho kukisikia.

Meza ndefuuu..... ya Vladimir Putin mojawapo ya vituko vitakavyo kumbukwa vita vya Ukraine.
Putin says: Can you hear me now?
Macron shouts : I cant hear you ,come again Vladimir!