TISS Ikanushe tuhuma za uvamizi, utekaji, utesaji na mauaji!. Wasijadiliwe na Bunge kwa uwazi bali wachunguzwe, wakithibitika wafumuliwe!

Ahsante sana best.......ngoja niangalie huwenda nami ninakwalifai hahahaha nisubirie ajira mpya
 
Pascal Mayalla,
Paskali TISS ni idara muhimu sana kwa nchi yetu na pia kwa mustakabali wa nchi na kwa kweli si vyema ikajadiliwa Bungeni au po pote pale kwenye kadamnasi. Hata USA kuna Senate Intelligence Committee na House Intelligence Committee iwapo kuna lo lote linapaswa kuongelewa na mara jingi ni "briefs" tu.

Tatizo ambalo mimi ninaloliona ni kuwa TISS wajikite Zaidi kwenye "professionalism" ya kazi zao ambayo itokane na Recruitment (with intensive background checks ) na Training. Hii itaondoa kabisa kutajwa tajwa kwa mambo ambayo kwa kiasi kikubwa inawezekana si wahusika (ukumbuke hawawezi kujitetea hadharani. Kwa mfano niliwahi kuhudhuria kesi moja ambapo watuhumiwa kadhaa walidai waliteswa Wakati wa mahojiano wale waliofanya kitendo hicho walipoulizwa kwa nini walifanya "torturing" wakajibu sisi tuliamriwa tuwa"interrogate" watuhumiwa. kwa wahusika there was no difference between "Interrogation and Torturing". Kwa mara ya kwanza wakiwa kwenye mahakama walijua kumbe there is a difference.
 
Mkuu demulikuy
thanks kwa objectivity yako kuhusu torture.

Kwa vile TISS iko chini ya Ikulu yetu na Ikulu ni mahali patakatifu, then TISS is expected ni TISS takatifu. Kitendo cha TISS kutajwa kwenye makorokocho sio heshima hata kido go, hiyo torture za TISS nilizozizungumzia humu zilikuwa systematics na zilikubaliwa ila Nyerere aliposikia alikasirika sana.

Kwenye tuhuma za utekaji na utesaji wa TISS, those who live to tell are the lucky and the very fortunate ones, no one knows what happens to unlucky ones who never lived to tell. Dawa ni kwa TISS au kupitia waziri husika kukanusha kuwa hawahusiki na haya makorokocho wanayonyooshewa kidole kwa kuwakana wale makirikiri wa Bashite na yule mpuuzi wa kwa Nape.

Japo silence sometimes means ignoring lakini sometimes silence means yes name
na mahakamani silence means admissibility of guilt. Hapa jf ni mahakama ya umma hivyo the public has the right to think either way.

Paskali
 
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Wanaoijadili TISS wanafanya jambo la kizalendo.
Nampongeza Paskali kwa hili. Namkubali Mchambuzi.
Siungi mkono kuivunja TISS lakini siyo kwamba haiwezi kuvunjwa na kuundwa upya na bado tukawa salama.
Tishio la kwamba wana TISS watajiunga na vyombo vingine si la muhimu kama kweli wana TISS wa sasa ni wale ninaowajua. Mwana TISS wa kweli hawezi kuuza uzalendo wake.
Kumbukumbu zangu zinaniambia iliwahi kuvunjwa kabla haijaitwa TISS miaka ya 60's .
Kama kuna wasiwasi wa kuhatarisha usalama kutoka ndani ya TISS, then hiyo ni sababu tosha ya kuonyesha haja ya kuivunja. Nchi hii haiongozwi na TISS, bali wanaoiongoza wanasaidiwa na TISS.
Tusiwachafue TISS kwa kuwapa sifa wasiyo nayo.
Naamini ni wazalendo na wameapa kulilinda taifa hata likiwa mikononi mwa mtu asiyeijua TISS.

Mwisho, nisisitize, pamoja na umahiri na uadilifu, usiri na weledi mkubwa, taasisi yetu haikuundwa na malaika. Hata mbinguni malaika waliasi. Imeundwa na watu na inaongozwa na watu.
Tulikofika ile creed yao ya " no person is greater than a nation itumike" ili kusafisha hali ya hewa.
Vijana waaminifu na wazee waadilifu wanachafuliwa na watu wachache wenye ajenda zao kisiasa.
Vinginevyo, kiongozi wao "ajilipue" na anajua namna ya kufanya hivyo.
 
Mkuu
Baija Bolobi
Thanks for this.
P
 
I commend my compatriots for the very useful input on how to Improve the Intelligence Institution of our Nation, Indeed I believe that those who are responsible will take these contributions positively , objectively and see how they
can integrate them

But I believe

1. TISS should never ever be a political tool by any one to further his own political agenda

2. I believe TISS should never , ever be used to Silence dissent

3. I believe, TISS should never, ever be used on the Citizenry to take away any of their rights as stipulated in the Constitution of the United republic of Tanzania

4. I believe TISS, should never, ever Torture the Innocent so that from them to extract any information no matter how of Intelligence value that information is!

5. I believe TISS, should recruit people of Above average Intelligence, here I don't mean people who perform top in the class, but I mean people with high I.Q, Ofcourse people with high I.Q do not necessary perform higher in the classrooms, but there are ways to spot them. Aptitude tests sometomes can give a glimpse of people with higer I.Qs
 
Pasco kwanini ilikuwa taboo wasidiscusiwe? Huoni huko kutokudiscusiwa ndo kulikuwa kuna wapa bichwa hata LA kufanya maovu kwa vile hamna wakuwahoji. Idara hii inahtaji kuwa huru bila kuingiliwa na yoyote ili iwe huru iache kutumika kwa masilahi ya watu binafsi.
 
hii taboo ya kutokudiscuss anything to do with TISS ni kutokana na mfumo wa operations, na ulianzia Bungeni budget ya TISS, Wizara ya Ulinzi, Ikulu na PCCB zinawasilishwa tuu Bungeni na kupitishwa bila kujadiliwa, kamati ya Bunge ya Mambo ya Nje, Ulinzi na Usalama inazipitia tuu vote zake bila kuhoji lolote.
Hivyo sio busara kwa Bunge kujadili mambo nyeti kama haya.

Hata kwenye uzi huu nimeweka yale madudu ya TISS yaliyowahi kuibukia Mahakamani na yakaripotiwa na media. Mambo mengine yote TISS inayoyafanya nobody knows. Japo kuna members humu ni ma TISS kama huyu alimwaga haya makitu ya ajabu kuhusu TISS hadi nikaogopa.

CHADEMA kuweni makini sana, kilicho nyuma ya pazia hiki hapa!

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Membe be careful, adui yako wa kweli humjui!

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Paskali
 
pascal utasalimika kweli?
niko salama kwa sababu yote niliyoeleza humu ni mambo ya kweli yaliyotokea na wahusika waliwajibishwa.

Ila na wewe nawe Miss Natafuta
na hizi avatars zako, uwe na huruma japo kidogo na sisi wengine wenu ni viumbe dhaifu, hata ukiona picha tuu, unajikuta unateseka, please kuwa na huruma japo kidogo, tusitesane!.

Paskali
 
Nani wa kuifumua, kama bashite ndiye think tank wao na babake ambaye ndiye mlezi wao kampa awatumie awatakavyo!
Yaani kesi ya nyani aamue ngedere?
Kwa vile huu ni mtambo, sometimes unaweza kutumia self diagnostic equipment ikajisafisha yenyewe kimya kimya huku nje wala tusijue ila tutaona tuu matokeo kwa mabadiliko chanya.
Paskali
 
ungetuambia kwanza kama torture ni kinyume cha sharia ipi maana utesaji ni moja ya mbinu za kipelelezi
Nyinyi ndio wale mnaoishia kusoma heading tuu na kuchangia! . Umemsikia Lisu kasema nini? .
Msikilize. Paskali
 
Pascal Nyerere alikuwa utu, huyu hana kabisa!
No huyu anafanana sana sana Nyerere, nilisema hapa Magufuli kama Nyerere: Ni mtu wa watu, hapapasi, hamung'unyi, ni kazi tuu, ila pia sio kama Nyerere!

Kama issue ni kuongea kwa ukali huku akikaza maneno, hii ni hulka tuu, nimeizungumza hapa Kanda ya Ziwa na kuongea kwa ukali: Ukali wa Rais Magufuli ni asili tuu ya wasukuma, sio udikteta!

Lingine ni kutoonyesha kujali majanga nako sio ukatili bali ni ushujaa nimeuzungumza hapa
Kutoonyesha Hisia/Huruma wala pole za sauti si Udikteta bali ni Ushujaa wa Kijeshi!

Hivyo yuko kama Nyerere kwa kiasi kikubwa na kuna maeneo ni zaidi ya Nyerere.

Paskali
 
Naomba kujua kaka Pascal......... kazi/ TOR/Job description za TISS ni zipi??....
Hili swali nadhani ni internal kwa ma TISS wenyewe. Kwa vile mimi sio TISS na sijawahi kuona tangazo la kazi TISS wala kujua job descriptions zao, utanisamehe bure.
US ndio huwa wanatangaza kazi hizi wazi wazi wenye sifa waombe not huku dark continent!.
Kwa msaada zaidi karibu pande hizi
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Acha kuzunguka mbuyu, anayewatuma anafahamika , mnazunguka nini? TISS ni nini, wako chini ya nani? acha hizo wanatumwa na Ikuru, Ikuru ni nini?, Ikuru ni nani?
Pascal pole sana,najua JKN alikuwa anashida lakini hili la kuua na kutesa kwa sababu ya kutukana,kuhojiwa sidhani kama lingekuwepo kwa JKN.

Kiongozi yeyote akishashindwa kuongoza basi matokeo yake ni kutumia idara hii kunyamazisha watu.
Not necessarily. Let's give them the benefits of doubt kwa options 3.

1. Tiss huko nyuma iliwahi kufanya makosa ya utekaji, utesaji na hata uuaji, na ikafumuliwa!. Hivyo kwa vile tayari tunayo precedence ya vitendo viovu vya TISS huko nyuma, hivyo kwa kuutumia uthibitisho wa uovu huo, una justify kuwa kuna uwezekano ikawa ni kweli TISS is behind huu uovu na uchafu unaozungumziwa sasa Bungeni.

2. Lakini pia inawezekana sio TISS as TISS bali ni acts za individual members wa TISS wakifanya a "stand alone operations" bila kupokea command yoyote kutoka juu, hivyo vitendo vya wachache, vikaichafua TISS yetu collectively kwenye a collective responsibilities formula.

3. Pia inawezekana kabisa vitendo hivi vinafanywa na wahuni fulani, ambao wana pose as TISS just to make believe kuwa ni TISS kumbe sio TISS bali ni just impostors wanaochafua the good image ya TISS wetu waadilifu.

Whichever the case, TISS ijitokeze iwakane na kurudisha imani na TISS wetu.

Paskali
 
Paskali, nimetokea kukufahamu kupitia vipindi vyako pale Maonyesho ya sabasaba, nikakuona as an influential man and a knowlegeable one, not an informed one! UMENIACHA NA MASHAKA NA WELEDI WAKO... kwanini?
HAYA YOTE YANAFANYIKA MKULU/JPM ANAONA ANANYAMAZA, WAZIRI MKUU ANAONA, ANANYAMAZA, IGP ANAONA ANANYAMAZA..., NCHEMBA ANAONA ANAYAMAZA.... Logical conclusion ni ipi? Kuna baraka za hao watu.. this is an irresistible CONCLUSION!
Rais hakuona Clouds ilivyotekwa? IGP hakuona. Nchemba hakuona, PM hakuona?

........ Bashite hana vyeti fake? P, JPM, IGP, Nchemba hawasikii "allegations"......
Ndiyo maana nimesema either you are knowledgeable or you are informed (being in a position to know the things without associating them with any scientific reasoning)... ..... BOTTOMLINE ni kuwa you are knowlegeable but huyaoni kwa ajili ya mapenzi ya homeboy and his associates to grip power as a tribe!
Your benefit of doubt options hapo juu they do not portray the intellect commonly associated with people of your prestige, caliber and dignity!
 
Pascal unatuzingua na kung'ata-kupuliza zako.
Tatizo liko wazi kabisa na wanaowatumia TISS vibaya na kuleta malalamiko haya kwa jamii wanajulikana na viongozi wa TISS na wenye mamlaka nao wanajulikana. Ngoja nikurudishie dozi inayokufaa (tena kwa sauti ya Mkulu)

TISS piga kazii, nasema piga kaziiii
Makonda piga kazi, nasema piga kaziii
 
TISS si chombo cha Usalama wa viongozi tu bali chombo cha Usalama wa Taifa zima.
Lakini ni kawaida au mazoea kutokea huko nyuma wakuu wenye nyadhifa mbali mbali walio kuwa karibu na chombo hicho kukihujumu kwa maslahi yao binafsi na sio siri.
Lazima tuwe wazi kwamba TISS ni kama kampuni yenye mfumo au muundo wa kushughulikia au kutekeleza jambo au mambo kutokana na taratibu,au kanuni zake.
Kama kuna mapungufu yanaosumbua taasisi hiyo yasielekezwe gizani bali yalenge mtu au watu au kundi au nchi inayochafua hali ya hewa kwa makusudi au kwa uzembe au kwa kutojua au vyote.
 
Ni ujinga kuamini kuwa eti usalama wa Taifa unateka watu na unaua watu, mbona sisi hatujatekwa, watu wamejaa barabarani, wamejaa mashambani mbona hawajatekwa wala kuuwawa? Mbona hata wewe hujauwa wala kutekwa? Leo hii unaibuka na post ya kijinga jinga. Amajweli post za kunukuu ujinga uliotolewa na mjinga flani tena wa upinzani ambaye yeye ameajiriwa kupinga tu. Jitu lililokataliwa kutokana na ufisadi. Lowasa hatakuwa Rais hata mkilala mnaota.
 
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