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Kwani hasa vita itapiganiwa wapi? Yaani ili SA apigane na Rwanda na pia ili Rwanda ipige SA?
Kwani hasa vita itapiganiwa wapi? Yaani ili SA apigane na Rwanda na pia ili Rwanda ipige SA?South Africa hawawezi kupigana katika hiyo misitu ya Congo kuwashinda Rwanda, SA hawewezi kupigana na jeshi la Rwanda DRC au Rwanda yenyewe wakatoboa bila kupata msaada wa Tanzania na Uganda kufunga mipaka yake na Rwanda.
Kagame anatoa wapi ujasiri wa kumvimbia Ramaphosa?Kuwa muelewa mkuu vita ya msituni saivi hazina nafasi tena.....saivi ni Drone na Ndege .....
Na pia ujue vita ni uchumi GDP ya Rwanda ni USD 14.3 Bil huku GDP ya Sout africa ni zaidi ha USD 400 bil Pato jumla la Rwanda ni sawa na Bajeti ya wizara ya afya ya South Africa .....
Grow up mr.
Ujasiri ni kwamba yeye Kagame atakuwa anapigana vita katika uwanja wa nyumbani wakati SA atakuwa ugenini.Kagame anatoa wapi ujasiri wa kumvimbia Ramaphosa?
Huna historia ya SANDF, although wao vita vyao wamepigana sana kusini mwa jangwa la sahara. Na ni wataala wa bush wars. Popular vita ni border war 1966 - 1989, ziko nyingine walizoshiriki before hapo. Lakin pia kuna mission under kofia ya UNWanajeshi wa SA watanyooshwa sana kwenye misitu ya Congo, hawajawahi hata kupigana vitu kubwa kama wanajeshi wa Rwanda ambao vita ni maisha yao.
Putin hajawahi kuwa Tanzania miaka minne kufundisha sijui watu gani. Soma miaka hiyo Putin alikuwa wapi, na umri gani, akifanya nini.Acha kilinganisha na jeshi la enzi za Mchonga na hawa Bongo movie walioingizwa jeshini kwa vimemo japo ukitoa vita dhidi ya Idd Amin huku kwingine ni nchi nyingi sana zilishiriki kusaidia ila propaganda za kuhadaa Wabongo kuhusu umuhimu wetu zilikuwa kubwa na zilitiwa chunvi sana.
Russia(then USSR) na Cuba literally ndiyo waliikomboa Angola
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Hiyo border war ya SA na Namibia ilikuwa vita vya jeshi la makaburu halafu ni bush war(vita vya vichakani) sio vita vya msituni kama msitu wa Ikweta mashariki ya DRC. Wanajeshi wa SA wakiingia mashariki ya Congo wakipigwa mvua moja tu wanaugua homa wanaanza kutetemeka kama kuku wenye mdondo/kideri.Huna historia ya SANDF, although wao vita vyao wamepigana sana kusini mwa jangwa la sahara. Na ni wataala wa bush wars. Popular vita ni border war 1966 - 1989, ziko nyingine walizoshiriki before hapo. Lakin pia kuna mission under kofia ya UN
So kusema hawana uzeofu, maybe hufaham historia
Ndo unavyojidanganyaWanajeshi wa SA watanyooshwa sana kwenye misitu ya Congo, hawajawahi hata kupigana vitu kubwa kama wanajeshi wa Rwanda ambao vita ni maisha yao.
Kuhusu kuuza silaha;NYie madogo hamjui kitu. Vita ni pamoja na nidhamu ya wanajeshi. SA hawana jeshi la maana. Kagame ana watu wana nidhamu. Usione SA kubwa lakini inaweza kuwa kubwa Jinga. Angalia Israel na Iran au maadui zake utaelewa. South Africa inauza silaha gani nchi zilizoendelea kwa wingi? Unadhani Kagame kuongea hivyo ameropoka au hajui athari yake? Wanajeshi wa SA. wanaweka silaha chini wanaondoka. Hawana nidhamu kabisa.
Hiyo ndio loophole anayoitumia PK kuingiza jeshi lake huko wanajichanganya na Tutsi wa Kongo,akiulizwa anadai M23 ni raia wa Kongo kumbe sasa ni mixer(Congolese Tutsi + Rwandese Tutsi = M23).Naomba kuuliza.., Hivi wa Tutsi wa Congo ni watu wa Rwanda au ni Watu wa Congo ?; Nadhani Congo ikae na watu wao wote (ikiwemo hao Watusi na nchi nyingine ziache kuwaingilia Congo na kuiba rasilimali zao ikiwemo Uganda, Rwanda na Mataifa ya nje.
Okay PK ana makosa (kama walivyo Waganda na Mataifa yote ya nje yanayoingia na kuiba) ila swali langu bado lipo palepale Watutsi wa Congo ni wa Congo au Wanyarwanda ?Hiyo ndio loophole anayoitumia PK kuingiza jeshi lake huko wanajichanganya na Tutsi wa Kongo,akiulizwa anadai M23 ni raia wa Kongo kumbe sasa ni mixer(Congolese Tutsi + Rwandese Tutsi = M23).
Watutsi hawaachani kamwe.
PK anadhani watu ni wapumbavu kumbe wanamchora tu,kitamlamba muda si mob.
Ni wa Kongo mkuu.Okay PK ana makosa (kama walivyo Waganda na Mataifa yote ya nje yanayoingia na kuiba) ila swali langu bado lipo palepale Watutsi wa Congo ni wa Congo au Wanyarwanda ?
Blast from the Past; Nyerere's take on Congo's Conflict (Banyamulenge)
From the Video Below Nyerere tries to explain from his point of View the Problem of Congo's Conflict; Banyamulenge... In the Video he tries to explain (from his point of view): The root causes of instability in DRC and Africa. The problem of Banyamurenge and M23 Rebel The role of colonial...www.jamiiforums.com
Jinsi Kagame anavyojibizana na Ramaphosa naona kama anajisahau sana
Sidhani kama Rwanda itaiweza South Africa.
Hii ni kutoka X (Twitter)
I held two conversations this week with President Ramaphosa on the situation in Eastern DRC, including earlier today. What has been said about these conversations in the media by South African officials and President Ramaphosa himself contains a lot of distortion, deliberate attacks, and even lies. If words can change so much from a conversation to a public statement, it says a lot about how these very important issues are being managed. A few important clarifications for the record:
1. The Rwanda Defence Force is an army, not a militia.
2. SAMIDRC is not a peacekeeping force, and it has no place in this situation. It was authorized by SADC as a belligerent force engaging in offensive combat operations to help the DRC Government fight against its own people, working alongside genocidal armed groups like FDLR which target Rwanda, while also threatening to take the war to Rwanda itself.
3. SAMIDRC displaced a true peacekeeping force, the East African Community Regional Force, and this contributed to the failure of the negotiation processes.
4. President Ramaphosa has never given a "warning" of any kind, unless it was delivered in his local language which I do not understand. He did ask for support to ensure the South African force has adequate electricity, food and water, which we shall help communicate.
5. President Ramaphosa confirmed to me that M23 did not kill the soldiers from South Africa, FARDC did.
6. If South Africa wants to contribute to peaceful solutions, that is well and good, but South Africa is in no position to take on the role of a peacemaker or mediator. And if South Africa prefers confrontation, Rwanda will deal with the matter in that context any day.
Lakini Ramaphosa hakusema vibaya kwa maoni yangu
Fellow South Africans,
Following the recent intensification of fighting in the eastern Democratic Republic of the Congo, South Africa has lost 13 brave soldiers who were dedicated to their mission and committed to peace. The fighting is the result of an escalation by the rebel group M23 and Rwanda Defence Force (RDF) militia engaging the Armed Forces of the DRC (FARDC) and attacking peacekeepers from the SADC Mission in the Democratic Republic of Congo (SAMIDRC).
On behalf of the government and the people of our country, I express our sincerest condolences to their families, their loved ones and colleagues. We bow our heads in honor of their heroic and gallant fight for peace. We honour and mourn them.All necessary support is being provided to the families of the deceased and the families of the injured. The process to repatriate the remains of the deceased is underway.
The attacks on peacekeepers resulted in the deaths of SAMIDRC members from other troop contributing countries, namely, Malawi and Tanzania, as well members of the UN Organisation Stabilisation Mission in the DRC (MONUSCO) brigade. We honour all the lives that were lost and pass our condolences to their families, governments and citizens. The situation in Goma and Sake, where our troops and their counterparts are stationed, remains very tense, volatile and unpredictable. The Minister of Defence and Military Veterans Ms Angie Motshekga and the Chief of the SANDF Gen Rudzani Maphwanya and SAMIDRC Force Commander Maj Gen Monwabisi Dyakopu are working to ensure that the SAMIDRC forces remain well equipped and sufficiently supported during this critical mission. We are concerned about the speculation about the state of our troops and the battle conditions.
All South Africans must rally behind our brave men and women who have dedicated their lives to bringing peace in our continent. South Africa’s military presence in the eastern DRC is not a declaration of war against any country or state. The members of the South African National Defence Force that are in the DRC are part of both SADC and United Nations efforts to bring peace and protect thousands of lives that are constantly threatened by the conflict in the DRC. The presence of the SAMIDRC forces demonstrates a commitment of SADC member states to supporting the DRC in its efforts to achieve lasting peace and stability and ultimately, create an enabling environment for sustainable development and prosperity.
We welcome the position that was recently adopted by the United Nations Security Council during its special sitting on the situation in the DRC, which calls for an immediate end to hostilities, the reversal of territorial expansion by the M23, the exit of external forces from the DRC and the resumption of peace talks under the Nairobi Process. The territorial integrity of the DRC must be respected in accordance with the United Nations Charter on the respect of sovereignty, territorial integrity and political independence of other states. We call on all parties to this conflict to fully embrace the current diplomatic efforts that are aimed at finding a peaceful resolution, including honoring the Luanda Process agreements. We must silence the guns on our continent for the attainment of inclusive development and prosperity.
I thank you.
Nakuunga mkono asilimia 1000 kwani madaraka kupita kiasi hulevya kupita kiasi. Kagame akumbushe kilichompata nduli Idi Amin alipoichokoza na kuichokonoa Tanzania. Awaulize wareno kilichowapata Angola na Msumbiji.Kagame
KAGAME anaugonjwa, psych condition inaitwa MEGALOMANIA (Megalomaniac is someone who has an unnaturally strong wish for power and control, or thinks that they are much more important and powerful than they really are), SADF wanauwezo wa ku obliterate Rwanda kwa wiki moja bila boots kugusa arithi.Nakuunga mkono asilimia 1000 kwani madaraka kupita kiasi hulevya kupita kiasi. Kagame akumbushe kilichompata nduli Idi Amin alipoichokoza na kuichokonoa Tanzania. Awaulize wareno kilichowapata Angola na Msumbiji.