Papa Francis aruhusu Makasisi kuwabariki wanandoa wa jinsia moja

[Sir John Roberts]

Wakatoliki habari yetu imeishaaa! kama vipi kila mmoja aangalie usalama wake, wakwenda kwa walokole au... isipokuwa kwenye uislamu huko tusiende. Papa amechoma kambi.

Mimi wiki hii natafuta sheikh anisilimishe tu hakuna namna.

 

[African Geek]

Kanisa linanuka Kinyesi !!

 

[Sir John Roberts]

Naona akina BBC mna push sana agenda hii, sijajua mna maslahi gani nayo. Kanisa Katoliki muda wote linakanusha mambo haya, lakini bado tu mmeshikilia. Tuwekee waraka wa Vatican tuusome!

🤣🤣 mbona unapenda kujidanganya mwenyewe mkuu? Usijaribu kujificha uozo wa kanisa kwa kupitia BBC angalia hii ni CNN haya unataka kusemaje sasa.

 

[zitto junior]

So you have to be a sinner for the grace of God to work for you?

We are all sinners, wewe hapo I'm sure hujatoa kikumi mwezi huu ni dhambi sawa tu na mwizi au mzinzi so bila neema unadhani ungeendelea kulindwa na Mungu au kuwa hai?

If God loves the sinner but hates sins, Why is there hell for the sinners?

Ndio maana anawapa neema ili wabadilike, hell was meant for the devil alone not otherwise. Hata kwenye Bible ukisoma 2 Peter, Yesu alipokufa alienda he'll kuhubiria wenye dhambi ili afufuke nao!! Unadhani bila neema angeenda huo?

 

[shinyangakwetu]

Pope Francis has allowed priests to bless same-sex couples, a significant advance for LGBT people in the Roman Catholic Church.

The leader of the Roman Catholic Church said priests should be permitted to bless same-sex and "irregular" couples, under certain circumstances.

But the Vatican said blessings should not be part of regular Church rituals or related to civil unions or weddings.

It added that it continues to view marriage as between a man and a woman.

Pope Francis approved a document issued by the Vatican announcing the change on Monday. The Vatican said it should be a sign that "God welcomes all", but the document says priests must decide on a case-by-case basis.

Introducing the text, Cardinal Víctor Manuel Fernández, the prefect of the Church, said that the new declaration remained "firm on the traditional doctrine of the Church about marriage".

But he added that in keeping with the Pope's "pastoral vision" of "broadening" the appeal of the Catholic Church, the new guidelines would allow priests to bless relationships still considered sinful.

People receiving a blessing "should not be required to have prior moral perfection", according to the declaration.

Tafsiri isiyo rasmi

Papa Francis amewaruhusu makasisi kuwabariki wapenzi wa jinsia moja, maendeleo makubwa kwa watu wa LGBT katika Kanisa Katoliki la Roma. Kiongozi wa Kanisa Katoliki la Roma alisema makasisi wanapaswa kuruhusiwa kubariki watu wa jinsia moja na wanandoa "wasiokuwa wa kawaida", chini ya hali fulani. Lakini Vatikani ilisema baraka hazipaswi kuwa sehemu ya taratibu za kawaida za Kanisa au zinazohusiana na miungano ya kiraia au harusi. Iliongeza kuwa inaendelea kuiona ndoa kuwa kati ya mwanamume na mwanamke. Papa Francis aliidhinisha waraka uliotolewa na Vatican kutangaza mabadiliko hayo siku ya Jumatatu. Vatikani ilisema inapaswa kuwa ishara kwamba "Mungu anawakaribisha wote", lakini waraka huo unasema makasisi lazima waamue kwa msingi wa kesi baada ya kesi. Akitambulisha andiko hilo, Kadinali Víctor Manuel Fernández, mkuu wa Kanisa, alisema kwamba tamko jipya lilibaki "imara kwenye mafundisho ya kitamaduni ya Kanisa kuhusu ndoa". Lakini aliongeza kuwa kwa kuzingatia "maono ya kichungaji" ya Papa ya "kupanua" rufaa ya Kanisa Katoliki, miongozo hiyo mipya itawaruhusu mapadre kubariki uhusiano ambao bado unachukuliwa kuwa wa dhambi. Watu wanaopokea baraka "hawapaswi kuhitajika kuwa na ukamilifu wa maadili", kulingana na tamko hilo.
Hivyo kutokana na tamko hili la Vatican tunapaswa kupaza sauti kuu ya kupinga kwa nguvu zote jambo hili na ikiwezekana sisi tusio na dini tuandike waraka na kusambaza kwenye vijiwe vyote vya kahawa,magengeni,minadani, kwenye mabaa, kwenye viwanja vya michezo ili usomwe kila iitwapo leo kama ambavyo wenzetu walifanya kupinga mkataba mbovu wa DP - World.Naandaa utaratibu wa kukutana na wanasheria,watetezi wa maadili wasio na mrengo wowote wa kidini ili tuweze kuandaa waraka utakaokiokoa kizazi chetu.Nakaribisha maoni zaidi na naomba radhi kwa kuingilia masuala ya dini zenu ila mimi natetea jamii yetu isiyo na hatia.

Papa na vatcan hawafanyii kazi huu ujinga ulioandikwa na mashoga mafirauni.
Taarifa za vatcan ziko kwenye web yao na sii mitandao yenu ya kijinga.
Nendeni mkawasaidie HAMAS maana wananyukwa huko Gaza.
Mnaacha kufanya yenu mnakuja kuandika ujinga kuhusu Papa

 

[FaizaFoxy]

Wakristu katika giza la ufiraji

Waislamu katika giza la mauji kwa kivuli cha jihadi

Shetani ameshaziteka hizi Imani mbili, wakristu na waislamu wamebaki kushutumiana tu nani ni mchafu kuliko mwenzie


ila papa Fransisi inapaswa anyongwe aisee

Usiuingize Uislam katika ujinga na ushetani wenu.

 

[stonecutter]

Mimi wiki hii natafuta sheikh anisilimishe tu hakuna namna.

Hahahaa! muislamu huwa haslimu mkuu wangu.

 

[Yoda]

Huwezi kupingana na papa wewe kilaza, labda uhame kanisa.

 

[Master WAPEKEYE]

Kama Jambo hili ni la KWELI nadhani haitokaa niende kanisani TENA.

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[Mr. Miela]

Pope Francis has allowed priests to bless same-sex couples, a significant advance for LGBT people in the Roman Catholic Church.

The leader of the Roman Catholic Church said priests should be permitted to bless same-sex and "irregular" couples, under certain circumstances.

But the Vatican said blessings should not be part of regular Church rituals or related to civil unions or weddings.

It added that it continues to view marriage as between a man and a woman.

Pope Francis approved a document issued by the Vatican announcing the change on Monday. The Vatican said it should be a sign that "God welcomes all", but the document says priests must decide on a case-by-case basis.

Introducing the text, Cardinal Víctor Manuel Fernández, the prefect of the Church, said that the new declaration remained "firm on the traditional doctrine of the Church about marriage".

But he added that in keeping with the Pope's "pastoral vision" of "broadening" the appeal of the Catholic Church, the new guidelines would allow priests to bless relationships still considered sinful.

People receiving a blessing "should not be required to have prior moral perfection", according to the declaration.

Tafsiri isiyo rasmi

Papa Francis amewaruhusu makasisi kuwabariki wapenzi wa jinsia moja, maendeleo makubwa kwa watu wa LGBT katika Kanisa Katoliki la Roma. Kiongozi wa Kanisa Katoliki la Roma alisema makasisi wanapaswa kuruhusiwa kubariki watu wa jinsia moja na wanandoa "wasiokuwa wa kawaida", chini ya hali fulani. Lakini Vatikani ilisema baraka hazipaswi kuwa sehemu ya taratibu za kawaida za Kanisa au zinazohusiana na miungano ya kiraia au harusi. Iliongeza kuwa inaendelea kuiona ndoa kuwa kati ya mwanamume na mwanamke. Papa Francis aliidhinisha waraka uliotolewa na Vatican kutangaza mabadiliko hayo siku ya Jumatatu. Vatikani ilisema inapaswa kuwa ishara kwamba "Mungu anawakaribisha wote", lakini waraka huo unasema makasisi lazima waamue kwa msingi wa kesi baada ya kesi. Akitambulisha andiko hilo, Kadinali Víctor Manuel Fernández, mkuu wa Kanisa, alisema kwamba tamko jipya lilibaki "imara kwenye mafundisho ya kitamaduni ya Kanisa kuhusu ndoa". Lakini aliongeza kuwa kwa kuzingatia "maono ya kichungaji" ya Papa ya "kupanua" rufaa ya Kanisa Katoliki, miongozo hiyo mipya itawaruhusu mapadre kubariki uhusiano ambao bado unachukuliwa kuwa wa dhambi. Watu wanaopokea baraka "hawapaswi kuhitajika kuwa na ukamilifu wa maadili", kulingana na tamko hilo.
Hivyo kutokana na tamko hili la Vatican tunapaswa kupaza sauti kuu ya kupinga kwa nguvu zote jambo hili na ikiwezekana sisi tusio na dini tuandike waraka na kusambaza kwenye vijiwe vyote vya kahawa,magengeni,minadani, kwenye mabaa, kwenye viwanja vya michezo ili usomwe kila iitwapo leo kama ambavyo wenzetu walifanya kupinga mkataba mbovu wa DP - World.Naandaa utaratibu wa kukutana na wanasheria,watetezi wa maadili wasio na mrengo wowote wa kidini ili tuweze kuandaa waraka utakaokiokoa kizazi chetu.Nakaribisha maoni zaidi na naomba radhi kwa kuingilia masuala ya dini zenu ila mimi natetea jamii yetu isiyo na hatia.

Matamko na miongozo ya papa hutolewa vatican na hupokelewa na na kusambazwa na baraza la maaskofu kupitia vitengo husika. Matamko haya ya facebook ni kama ya kigogo tu. Usiyatilie maanani utajaumia roho

 

[Steven Joel Ntamusano]

Matamko na miongozo ya papa hutolewa vatican na hupokelewa na na kusambazwa na baraza la maaskofu kupitia vitengo husika. Matamko haya ya facebook ni kama ya kigogo tu. Usiyatilie maanani utajaumia roho

Wapuuzi hawa wanadhani kanisa ni kikundi tu cha wajinga wasio na maadili.

 

[Idimi]

🤣🤣 mbona unapenda kujidanganya mwenyewe mkuu? Usijaribu kujificha uozo wa kanisa kwa kupitia BBC angalia hii ni CNN haya unataka kusemaje sasa.

Tofauti ya BBC na CNN kwenye utoaji habari potoshi ni ipi? Weka waraka wa Papa hapa tuusome. Sina mamlaka wala nia ya kuficha uozo.

 

[jiwe angavu]

Kipindi cha Dp World mlikuja na kelele nyingi. Sasa kwenye hili swala ndipi inabidi msimamo wenu uonekane.

Kwanza nimetoka kumpigia mke wangu simu aache mara moja kuwaruhusu watoto kwenda mafundisho.

Maadili ya watoto wetu yapo hatarini. Kwenye TV kumejazana ushoga, kwenye makanisa napo wanabariki ushoga, kweli?

Mwanzo nilikua naona katoliki ndo safe haven kwa ajili ya future nzuri ya kimaadili ya watoto lakini naona nilikosea.

Wapi Kitima? Wapi TEC?

Tulipofikia dunia ya leo,kukwepa habari za ushoga labda uhame dunia ukaishi mars.

 

[jiwe angavu]

Walidhani Tanzania ni mali ya kanisa,

Umesahau kila uchwao unalia na mfumo kristo,hadi bakwata uchaguzi wake wa kwanza walipewa hela na kanisa ili kufanikisha zoezi la uchaguzi.

 

[Ester505]

Ni taarifa ilyotumwa hivi punde,waraka rasmi kutumwa kwa makadinali Dunia nzima,.......tushuhudie vidume wakivalishana mashela kanisani huku nyomi la wakatoliki mashabaab wakipiga vigelegele wanaume wenzao kwenda kupigana miti baada ya kanisa kutoa Sacramento takatifu!
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ROME (AP) — Pope Francis has formally approved allowing priests to bless same-sex couples, with a new document explaining a radical change in Vatican policy by insisting that people seeking God’s love and mercy shouldn’t be subject to “an exhaustive moral analysis” to receive it.

The document from the Vatican’s doctrine office, released Monday, elaborates on a letter Francis sent to two conservative cardinals that was published in October. In that preliminary response, Francis suggested such blessings could be offered under some circumstances if they didn’t confuse the ritual with the sacrament of marriage.

The new document repeats that rationale and elaborates on it, reaffirming that marriage is a lifelong sacrament between a man and a woman. And it stresses that blessings should not be conferred at the same time as a civil union, using set rituals or even with the clothing and gestures that belong in a wedding.

But it says requests for such blessings should not be denied full stop. It offers an extensive definition of the term “blessing” in Scripture to insist that people seeking a transcendent relationship with God and looking for his love and mercy should not be subject to “an exhaustive moral analysis” as a precondition for receiving it.

“Ultimately, a blessing offers people a means to increase their trust in God,” the document said. “The request for a blessing, thus, expresses and nurtures openness to the transcendence, mercy, and closeness to God in a thousand concrete circumstances of life, which is no small thing in the world in which we live.”

He added: “It is a seed of the Holy Spirit that must be nurtured, not hindered.”

The Vatican holds that marriage is an indissoluble union between man and woman. As a result, it has long opposed same-sex marriage.

And in 2021, the Vatican’s Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith said flat-out that the church couldn’t bless the unions of two men or two women because “God cannot bless sin.”

That document created an outcry, one it appeared even Francis was blindsided by even though he had technically approved its publication. Soon after it was published, he removed the official responsible for it and set about laying the groundwork for a reversal.

In the new document, the Vatican said the church must shy away from “doctrinal or disciplinary schemes, especially when they lead to a narcissistic and authoritarian elitism whereby instead of evangelizing, one analyzes and classifies others, and instead of opening the door to grace, one exhausts his or her energies in inspecting and verifying.”

It stressed that people in “irregular” unions — gay or straight — are in a state of sin. But it said that shouldn’t deprive them of God’s love or mercy.

“Thus, when people ask for a blessing, an exhaustive moral analysis should not be placed as a precondition for conferring it,” the document said.

AP News

Tangu mwanzo ukisoma BIBLIA vizuri RUMI NI wapinga Kristo

 

[Sir John Roberts]

Hahahaa! muislamu huwa haslimu mkuu wangu.

Mimi ni RC mfu

 

[incharge]

Tulipofikia dunia ya leo,kukwepa habari za ushoga labda uhame dunia ukaishi mars.

Hapana usihalilishe mambo yenu mbaki nayo huko huko sisi wengine tutaendelea kufuata quran ndio muongozo wetu na kamwe hatutoruhusu huo ujinga kwenye dini yetu msahafu hautobadilika kamwe nenda nchi zenye kufuata sheria za kiislamu utajua nachoongea ,
Unakumbuka world cup qatar wazungu walitishia kuhusu mashoga na tamaduni zao ziruhusiwe qatar? Na si unakumbuka kauli za kiume walizopewa? Hawakuthubutu kupeleka sio tu ushoga hadi mambo yote ya zinaa waliyaacha , pombe yakatengwa maeneo maalumu kwenye hoteli za kitalii, na wote waliondoka wamefurahi na kusema its the best world cup ever

 

[THE BIG SHOW]

Hili Kanisa lilikuwa pekee lenye heshima duniani sijui kwa wenye heshima zao watafanyaje au ndo kubaki kuugulia maumivu tu!!!

DJ

WEKA ULE WIMBO UNAOSEMA MTAFUTE MTAFUTEEE,MTAFUTE WA KURUKA NAEEE,WE MTAFUTE MTAFUTE WA KUDANGA NAEEE,MOJA MOJA PAPA KARUHUSU TURUKEEE...!!!

TEH TEH TEH

 

[THE BIG SHOW]

Tangu mwanzo ukisoma BIBLIA vizuri RUMI NI wapinga Kristo

BAAADOOO,YAANI MPAKA MSEMEEEE....!!!!

TEH TEH TEH,

MTAFUTEE,MTAFUTE WA KURAKA NAEEEE

 

[THE BIG SHOW]

Tangu mwanzo ukisoma BIBLIA vizuri RUMI NI wapinga Kristo

DJ

WEKA ULE WIMBO UNAOSEMA MTAFUTE MTAFUTEEE,MTAFUTE WA KURUKA NAEEE,WE MTAFUTE MTAFUTE WA KUDANGA NAEEE,MOJA MOJA PAPA KARUHUSU TURUKEEE...!!!

TEH TEH TEH