Special Thread: Yanayojiri Mgogoro wa Ukraine na Urusi. Nini chanzo na hatma ya mzozo?

Daadeki show kali... wapambane tu na hali zao... Kama una namba zao nigei huku "tanks" tunazo pia kubwa za kutosha
 
wasanii hawa
 
Lazima sababu umeelemewa mno
Sasa Urusi anavyoteseka na lioperation lake kwenye nchi ya watu mm nalemewaje? Well labda upo sahihi kwa sababu binafsi nimepaki ingine kubwa natumia injini ndogo na gari ya ofisi baada ya mafuta kupanda, otherwise hakuna kulemewa kokote, ukilifanya hili ni too personal litakutengenezea imotions then hasira.
 
Sasa kauli ya reharsal hapa inatokea wapi, kama unakiri watu wanakufa! tuwe siriaz mkuu!

Nachoona ni drama, ni hiyo kauli ya reharsa wakati takriban wanajeshi 1000+ wa ussr wameshapotea
 
Unadhani Putin atasema ukweli kuwa kapata loss! za kuambiwa ongeza na zako!
 
Zelensky akata tamaa, asema Ukraine haiwezi kutoboa/kushinda vita mbele ya majeshi ya Russia...

Asema diplomacy ndio pekee itawaokoa waUkraine toka kwenye kichapo cha majeshi Russia....

Akiri Ukraine kupoteza marubani wengi mno (idadi yao asema hatoweza kuitaja hadharani, itakuwa ni fedheha kwa jeshi la Ukraine) na ndegevita nyingi sana huko Mariupol ktk jitihada za kupeleka chakula, maji, madawa kwa wanajeshi wa Ukraine waliokuwa wamejificha kama panya huko Azovstal ambao wote wameishia kutekwa na majeshi ya Russia

 
Sasa ole wake mUkraine yeyote apige nyimbo za Diamond zile zinaanza tu ''''eyooo lesor🎶 duluduu ndunduu, duluduu ndundu''''...... atakatwa kidevu😏
 
Majarubani kule matope mengi mno... [emoji23][emoji23][emoji23]




Leo sipo serious mzee, unauliza kiutani au upo serious tujadiliane [emoji41][emoji41][emoji41]
Twende na mood yako tu. Hapa ni maoni, furaha na kupata elimu mbili tatu ambayo sio kwamba itakupeleka popote au itaongeza kipato. Kama upo kiutani we leta utani mm ntakujibu na kuuliza swali.
 
Fake news
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Zelensky: Only ‘diplomacy’ can end Ukraine war
AFP
21 May 2022

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Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky said that ‘there are things that can only be reached at the negotiating table.’ (AFP)
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War ‘will be bloody, there will be fighting but will only definitively end through diplomacy’
KYIV: The Ukraine war can only be resolved through “diplomacy,” Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky said Saturday amid a deadlock in negotiations between Kyiv and Moscow.
“The end will be through diplomacy,” he told a Ukrainian television channel. The war “will be bloody, there will be fighting but will only definitively end through diplomacy.”
“Discussions between Ukraine and Russia will decidedly take place. Under what format I don’t know — with intermediaries, without them, in a broader group, at presidential level,” he said.
“There are things that can only be reached at the negotiating table,” he said.” We want everything to return (to as it was before)” but “Russia does not want that,” he said, without elaborating.
The results of negotiations, which could have a variety of subjects “according to the timing of the meeting,” would have to be “fair” for Ukraine, Zelensky stressed.
The president spoke of a document about security guarantees for his nation, saying it would be signed by “friends and partners of Ukraine, without Moscow.” A bilateral discussion would be held with Russia at the same time, he added.
He also recalled Kyiv’s absolute precondition for continuing talks that Russia does not kill Ukrainian troops who defended the Azovstal steelworks in Mariupol.
Zelensky noted Russian troops “offered the possibility, found a way for these people to come out alive,” from Azovstal.
“The most important thing for me is to save the maximum number of people and soldiers.”
According to Moscow 2,439 Ukrainians have surrendered at the plant since May 16, the final 500 on Friday.
On Tuesday, Kyiv’s lead negotiator Mykhaylo Podolyak said talks with Russia were “on hold” after taking place regularly in the earlier stages of the conflict but without substantial results.
The following day Kremlin spokesman Dmitry Peskov accused Kyiv authorities of not wanting to continue talks to end hostilities.
“Talks are indeed not moving forward and we note the complete lack of will of Ukrainian negotiators to continue this process,” he said.
The last talks took place on April 22, according to Russian news agencies.
After failing to take Kyiv following the February 24 invasion of Ukraine, Russian troops are now concentrating on the east of the country, where fierce clashes are ongoing.
 
Mikutano na ngonjera za vikwazo wameishiwa saizi wamehamia kuionea huruma dunia kukumbwa na njaa, sijui ndo kusema raia wa Russia siyo sehemu ya dunia na vikwazo vile
Dunia ni WAO mzee... huwa huwasikii wakijiita viongozi wa dunia [emoji41], kwamba dunia ipo na Ukraine [emoji847]
 
Duh ase!

Em baki na tu ule msimamo wako bandia w zamani... uko unakoelekea ni kujivua nguo mwamba [emoji23][emoji23][emoji23]
 
Sasa kauli ya reharsal hapa inatokea wapi, kama unakiri watu wanakufa! tuwe siriaz mkuu!

Nachoona ni drama, ni hiyo kauli ya reharsa wakati takriban wanajeshi 1000+ wa ussr wameshapotea
Wanajeshi kufa haimaanishi kwamba hawatafanya recruitment nyingine,elewa kuwa,wao wanapima ubora wa silaha za NATO,na sio wanajeshi kufa, mwanajeshi kufa vitani sio jambo la kuzungumzia wala kujali,elewa. Raia akiwawa vitani kesi,na sio mwanajeshi.
 
Ila huyu mwamba kuna mda anatia huruma basi tu.

Mfano kwa waliomsikiliza hotuba yake yote, kuna sehem anaelezea idadi ya marubani na ndege zilizopotea katika attempt ya kutaka kuwaokoa wale panya waliokuwa kule Azovstal...
 
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