Special Thread: Yanayojiri Mgogoro wa Ukraine na Urusi. Nini chanzo na hatma ya mzozo?

[jameshyela]

Wakati huo kipigo kinaendelea huku tusijisahau Sana.

"Russian assault helicopters attack two Ukrainian brigades near Kupyansk-top brass - Military & Defense - TASS" Russian assault helicopters attack two Ukrainian brigades near Kupyansk-top brass

 

[uchungu]

Russia haina wanajeshi, ina jisifu kuwa na vifaa vingi tu.

Ukraine angekuwa na usawa wa vifaa ka Urusi mbona tungeshamaliza kazi mapema

Vifaa si wanapewa na otan

 

[mohamedidrisa789]

Nilishakwambia sitaki heshima yako, sitafuti heshima mtandaoni.
Kama ulikuwa na mpango wa kuheshimu watu tafuta mtaani kwenu uko. NATO haiwezi pigana na kampuni ya babantilie, hiyo kampuni inatishia superpower mpaka Lukashenko aje kusuluhisha ndio unaamua uikuze. Unadhani NATO ni organization ya wajinga, USSR iko wapi.

Ukraine haiwezi pigana na Urusi? Basi tuseme tangu February 2022 wanaimba opera.
Package zinazotoka Marekani kwenda Ukraine ni sawa na zile zinazotoka uko kuja bongo ili mtumie ARVs, mambo ya kawaida sana kwa Marekani kutoa chochote. Tanzania kama ulistahili chandarua za malaria ilipata, Ukraine haiwezi pewa chandarua hayo sio mahitaji yake.
Marekani sio Urusi ambayo hutoa misaada ya silaha kila kona, haitoi kulingana na mahitaji.

Vipi network imerudi humo mashambani.[emoji1787][emoji1787][emoji1787][emoji1787][emoji1787]

 

[jameshyela]

Huwezi amini BBC wamerudi Tena na habari zao za Nyambizi yaani hata kipigo kinavyotolewa tolewa huko hawana habari, na hawataki kuripoti mchezo wa Jana ulivyoisha hivi BBC Nani kawaroga?

 

[mohamedidrisa789]

Wagner chief Prigozhin will move to Belarus and charges to be dropped under deal​

The Wagner group chief, Yevgeny Prigozhin, will move to Belarus under a deal to end the armed mutiny he led against Russia’s military leadership, the Kremlin said on Saturday night.

The deal was brokered by the Belarusian president, Alexander Lukashenko.

Kremlin spokesman Dmitry Peskov said Lukashenko had offered to mediate, with Vladimir Putin’s agreement, because he had known Prigozhin personally for about 20 years.

Peskov said the criminal case that had been opened against Prigozhin for armed mutiny would be dropped, and that the Wagner fighters who had taken part in his “march for justice” would not face any action, in recognition of their previous service to Russia.

Although Putin had earlier vowed to punish those who participated in the mutiny, Peskov said the agreement had had the “higher goal” of avoiding confrontation and bloodshed.

Prigozhin and all of his fighters vacated the military headquarters in the southern city of Rostov-on-Don that they had previously taken over, the RIA news agency reported.
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Hatimaye jamaa ataishi uhamishoni sasa, huenda hata mamlaka ya kuendesha Wagner yamechukuliwa na MOD.

Shiogu kajichukulia Wagner kiwepesi sana[emoji23][emoji23][emoji23].

Prigozhin itakuwa kaambiwa asimamie Wagner waliyopo Africa na nchi zingine.

 

[Jasmoni Tegga]

sijawahi kuzisikia Marekani tokea nimepata akili?

Mkuu, hapo ndipo penye shida hasa. Hapo jiangalie vizuri huenda ni propaganda zako tu kwamba uliwahi kupata akili. NATO hawajazichota kweli?

Nitaendelea kuwa pro-Russia... lakini from today I'll expect nothing kutoka kwao.

????

 

[Jasmoni Tegga]

The Wagner group chief, Yevgeny Prigozhin, will move to Belarus

Amepewa kazi maalum ya kwenda kulinda nyuklia za Mrusi. Nice tactical move.

Akili kubwa tu ndiyo itamwelewa Putin na karata zake za utawala.

 

[Jasmoni Tegga]

Huwezi amini BBC wamerudi Tena na habari zao za Nyambizi yaani hata kipigo kinavyotolewa tolewa huko hawana habari, na hawataki kuripoti mchezo wa Jana ulivyoisha hivi BBC Nani kawaroga?

Their only dream happiness has been halved, neutralized, eliminated and liquidated completely.

 

[tpaul]

Mkuu vipi mbona unamtukana sana Putin wakati unajua hayupo hapa JF wala kiswahili hajui?? Au na wewe ni wale wana upinde wa mvua?

Mimi ni mu-Ukraine mswahili kama wewe ulivyo mrusi mswahili.....ngoma droo! Wewe kinachokuuma nini?

 

[jameshyela]

Putin ni mshenzi na amedhihirisha hilo kwa kuivamia Ukraine bila sababu zozote za msingi. Ukiona NATO, Ulaya na Marekani hawakuungi mkono kwenye vita, jua umekwisha. Shtuka!

Bahati mbaya Putin ni sikio la kufa lakini cha moto anakipata. Ukisoma wajihi wake wakati anahutubia taifa leo utamhurumia, hata kama ulikuwa upande wake. Huyu mtu mikono yake imelowa damu za waukraine waliouawa na hawa wavamizi bila sababu za msingi.

Inasikitisha na inashangaza kuwa kuna baadhi ya watu wenye akili za kihayawani wanaomuunga mkono huyu mbwa anayeangamiza roho za watoto, wanawake na vikongwe wa Ukraine wakiwa hawana hatia wala namna ya kujitetea.

Kinachonisikitisha zaidi ni baadhi ya raia wenye akili za kiqumer wanaomuunga mkono na kumshabikia huyu mbwa. Qumer ya mermer zenu!​

Baada ya hayo tunaomba tuambie kinachoendelea huko.

 

[Bugucha]

Wakati Prighozin akichanganya watu,huko Kiev moto uliendelea kuwashwa kama kawaida

 

[Omulasil]

Sidhani kama uko sahihi kuhusu intelijensia ya Urusi.

Mambo ya nchi nyingine yana Siri kubwa sana.
Nina uhakika 1000% Huyo Prizgon alikua anafatiliwa sana ila sema sis Huku hatuwezi jua mambo ya Siri za ndani za jeshi la Urusi na ndani ya taasisi za usalama.
Prizgon alishaanza manenomaneno na lawama siku nyingi dhidi ya Shoigu na wengineo Tena Katikati ya vita .Sasa hata ujasusi wa kiwango Cha chini kabisa wa ngazi ya familia TU haiwezi kuacha kumtilia shaka na kumfatilia mtu kama huyo.
Hatujui kabisa ni kwa Nini yametokea hayo.
Yaani mtu kama Shoigu mwenyewe TU kama waziri wa ulinzi anaweza akaanza kumtilia mashak na kuanzisha upelelezi binafsi Tu ili kujua ana mipango gani ya ziada baada ya lawama anazorushiwa na Prizgon.
Kuhusu matangazo kua Mkuu wa jeshi wa Mkuu wa upelelezi wa Ukraine sidahni kama Urusi walitoa taarifa rasmi kua wamekufa,nahisi ni vyombo vya habari ndio vilkua vinatoa taarifa.lakini bado narudia huwezi kujua Siri za Kambi.
Hata kama walitangaza kua wamekufa inawezekana pia ni mbinu za kijasusi kutaka kupata uthibitishokama kweli wamekufa ama la,lengo ni ili kuwatoa huko walikojificha.
Kwa kifupi ndugu vita vina mambo mengi sana .
Hatujui pia .

Saa nyingine najiuliza pengine walimuacha hivyo ili wawatambue wanajeshi walio kinyume na smo hii.siju,au walio kinyume na Putin sijui, mambo ni mengi.

Nikirudi upande wa west unaowasifia.

West pia hata wao inelijesnsia zao hazijakamiliaka.
Haujafika muda wa wanajeshi wao kuleta vurugu,ukifika wtaleta TU.
Lkn kama nisuala la utambuzi mbona wanashindwa kutambua mambo mengi TU?mbona wameshindwa kujua nguvu na uwezo wa jeshi la Urusi na uimara wa uchumi wa Urusi?
Angalia mipango Yao jinsi ilivyofeli,vikwazo vyote kwa pamoja west yote na michango ya silaha ya pamoja west yote lkn vimeshindwa kuiangusha serikali ya Putin?

Je utaniambia intelijensia ya USA ni dhaifu baada ya kushambuliwa September 11?
Au kushindwa vita Afghanistan?

Umeueleza kwa uzuri mno,
Kama west wangekuwa wazuri kiintelijensia basi leo wangefanya counterooffensive ya kutosha wakijua Ruusia anahangaika na kuzima Uasi wa ndani.
Kumbuka west wako katika Mazoezi ya ya anga za zaidi ya ndege vita 200, wangeshambulia moscow kwa mgongo wa Uasi na Mapinduzi wa PMC. Labda tukubali kuwa hata wao waligundua ni Propaganda na mtego

 

[tpaul]

The Moscow Times: Prigozhin’s Armed Rebellion Will Have Lasting Consequences for Russia, Putin and the Ukraine War.

Prigozhin’s Armed Rebellion Will Have Lasting Consequences for Russia, Putin and the Ukraine War - The Moscow Times

Opinion | Vladimir Putin has ruled Russia with an increasingly tighter grip on power for more than two decades.

www.themoscowtimes.com

 

[tpaul]

The Moscow Times: Prigozhin’s Armed Rebellion Will Have Lasting Consequences for Russia, Putin and the Ukraine War.

Prigozhin’s Armed Rebellion Will Have Lasting Consequences for Russia, Putin and the Ukraine War - The Moscow Times

Opinion | Vladimir Putin has ruled Russia with an increasingly tighter grip on power for more than two decades.

www.themoscowtimes.com

Ona hata warusi wenyewe wanakubali madhara ya Wagner lakini machawa wa bongo wanaleta ubishi wa kiqumer. Pumbaff!

 

[Omulasil]

Nilishakwambia sitaki heshima yako, sitafuti heshima mtandaoni.
Kama ulikuwa na mpango wa kuheshimu watu tafuta mtaani kwenu uko. NATO haiwezi pigana na kampuni ya babantilie, hiyo kampuni inatishia superpower mpaka Lukashenko aje kusuluhisha ndio unaamua uikuze. Unadhani NATO ni organization ya wajinga, USSR iko wapi.

Ukraine haiwezi pigana na Urusi? Basi tuseme tangu February 2022 wanaimba opera.
Package zinazotoka Marekani kwenda Ukraine ni sawa na zile zinazotoka uko kuja bongo ili mtumie ARVs, mambo ya kawaida sana kwa Marekani kutoa chochote. Tanzania kama ulistahili chandarua za malaria ilipata, Ukraine haiwezi pewa chandarua hayo sio mahitaji yake.
Marekani sio Urusi ambayo hutoa misaada ya silaha kila kona, haitoi kulingana na mahitaji.

Dah kiongozi umerudi, hii MUTINY . Ni kama BambaLive

 

[Bugucha]

Sidhani kama uko sahihi kuhusu intelijensia ya Urusi.

Mambo ya nchi nyingine yana Siri kubwa sana.
Nina uhakika 1000% Huyo Prizgon alikua anafatiliwa sana ila sema sis Huku hatuwezi jua mambo ya Siri za ndani za jeshi la Urusi na ndani ya taasisi za usalama.
Prizgon alishaanza manenomaneno na lawama siku nyingi dhidi ya Shoigu na wengineo Tena Katikati ya vita .Sasa hata ujasusi wa kiwango Cha chini kabisa wa ngazi ya familia TU haiwezi kuacha kumtilia shaka na kumfatilia mtu kama huyo.
Hatujui kabisa ni kwa Nini yametokea hayo.
Yaani mtu kama Shoigu mwenyewe TU kama waziri wa ulinzi anaweza akaanza kumtilia mashak na kuanzisha upelelezi binafsi Tu ili kujua ana mipango gani ya ziada baada ya lawama anazorushiwa na Prizgon.
Kuhusu matangazo kua Mkuu wa jeshi wa Mkuu wa upelelezi wa Ukraine sidahni kama Urusi walitoa taarifa rasmi kua wamekufa,nahisi ni vyombo vya habari ndio vilkua vinatoa taarifa.lakini bado narudia huwezi kujua Siri za Kambi.
Hata kama walitangaza kua wamekufa inawezekana pia ni mbinu za kijasusi kutaka kupata uthibitishokama kweli wamekufa ama la,lengo ni ili kuwatoa huko walikojificha.
Kwa kifupi ndugu vita vina mambo mengi sana .
Hatujui pia .

Saa nyingine najiuliza pengine walimuacha hivyo ili wawatambue wanajeshi walio kinyume na smo hii.siju,au walio kinyume na Putin sijui, mambo ni mengi.

Nikirudi upande wa west unaowasifia.

West pia hata wao inelijesnsia zao hazijakamiliaka.
Haujafika muda wa wanajeshi wao kuleta vurugu,ukifika wtaleta TU.
Lkn kama nisuala la utambuzi mbona wanashindwa kutambua mambo mengi TU?mbona wameshindwa kujua nguvu na uwezo wa jeshi la Urusi na uimara wa uchumi wa Urusi?
Angalia mipango Yao jinsi ilivyofeli,vikwazo vyote kwa pamoja west yote na michango ya silaha ya pamoja west yote lkn vimeshindwa kuiangusha serikali ya Putin?

Je utaniambia intelijensia ya USA ni dhaifu baada ya kushambuliwa September 11?
Au kushindwa vita Afghanistan?

Mtu anaisifia west utadhani mtoto,anasahau juzi hapa Serikali ya Ujerumani ilikuwa ipinduliwe.

 

[Papa Mopao]

Hakuna akili kubwa iliyochezwa na Russia, ili kuichdza akili nzima ya dunia na kila mtu kafuata mkumbo hahahaha nimecheka sana kwa tukio la jana

Russia kweli wana mbinu nyingi zisizotabirika hadi raha daaah!

Ukraine vipigo kama kawaida vinaendelea

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[Jasmoni Tegga]

[emoji298]️[emoji298]️[emoji298]️Part of the Wagner PMC fighters, who initially refused to participate in Prigozhin's "campaign", will sign contracts with the Ministry of Defense - Peskov[emoji298]️[emoji298]️[emoji298]️

Okay, tunaanza kuelewa sasa. Kwamba Prigo alikuwa anafanya uchambuzi nani miongoni mwa jeshi lake ameiva kuwa mzalendo wa kweli Russia.

 

[Kokolo]

$6.2 billion US wamemlipa Prigo ampindue PUTINI , Pesa imeliwa na mchezo umeisha.

CIA backed coup

 

[uchungu]

Duh! Hii ya Leo tumepigwa changa la macho!
Sijajua nini kimetokea

Staki kuamini kwa Ile body language ya Putin alivyokuwa anautubia taifa.., kwamba huu unaweza kuwa mchezo wa kuigiza

Au huenda niko ndotoni , maana haya mambo siyaelewielewi kabisa [emoji16]

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