Audio: Alichosema Askofu Dkt. Josephat Gwajima kwa Kardinali Pengo

[Nifah]

CV ya Kimwili au ya Kiroho?

Hahahaaa, hii kali.Kuna hadi CV ya kimwili?

 

[Leak]

Gwajima ni jembeeeeee

Teh Teh jembe au mwehu..kama kweli anajua kutoa ya moyoni basi asimulie na kisa cha kutoka na mke wa mtu.

 

[Marytina]

Nahisi ndugu zake Gwajima ni wengi, kama kweli unafahamu maana ya migogoro kwenye inchi usingeweza kushabikia haya!

HUKO rwanda kuna mapadri walishirikiana na serikali(kwa wakati huo wahutu) kuwateketeza watutsi....PENGO anaelekea..

 

[Leak]

Hiyo madhabahu aliyotumia ngwajima kumkashifu Pengo ndio hiyo hiyo hutumia kuita Roho Mtakatifu na Damu ya Yesu ama kuna madhabahu nyingine? Kama ndio hiyo hiyo Je? ni mungu yupi anayemtumikia? Kusali kwenye madhehebu yasiyoeleweka ni kujitafutia laana tu.

Kwani huwa mnaamini kuna Mungu pale? Ngwajima ni muhuni kama wengine.

 

[Nifah]

Hiyo audio nimeisikiliza ila nimechoka.Vile vichambo vimetolewa na mchungaji? Hatari hii.

 

[Marytina]

Teh Teh jembe au mwehu..kama kweli anajua kutoa ya moyoni basi asimulie na kisa cha kutoka na mke wa mtu.

hamna uthibitisho wa kuliwa kwa mke wa mtu na GWAJIMA...
FLORA amesema mahakamani hajawahi kumsaliti MBASHA na mtoto ni wa mbasha na yuko tayari kwa DNA test:ALIYESEMA HAYA WKT AKITOA USHAHIDI WA KESI YA MBASHA KUBAKA

 

[Nyombesi]

Mtusi aliyotumia ni mazito sana

 

[Ndebile]

Sikupendi Gwajima ila kwenye hili umenisaidia kumwambia kiongozi wangu mtukufu, potelea pote lugha aliyotumia ujumbe umefika,.....Naukimbilia ulinzi wako, mzazi mtakatifu wa Mungu, usitunyime tukiomba katika shida zetu,utuokoe siku zote kila tuingiapo hatarini, Ee Bikira mtukufu, Amina.

 

[Leak]

Gwajima ana uchungu gani?angelikuwa na uchungu kweli na watanzania angewanyonya kiasi kile kwa miujiza hewa?

Gwajima ni mpiga dili kama wapiga dili wengine.

Nasikia aliwaahidi kumfufua Amina chifupa hadi leo anawapiga dana dana..Ngwajima msanii sana..

 

[Leak]

pengo sijuu nimpe laana gani mbayaaaaa.anafaa kufungiwa jiwe azanishwee kwenye karooo la maji machafuu

Anza kumpa laana kwanza yule aliye tembea na mke wa mtu..

 

[mfarisayo]

Ni mtu wa mungu kweli asiyetaka kondoo wapotee.Ni jembe,mchungaji wa kweli.

Mtu wa Mungu anayetaka watu wawe na akili za kushikiliwa?

 

[Leak]

hamna uthibitisho wa kuliwa kwa mke wa mtu na GWAJIMA...
FLORA amesema mahakamani hajawahi kumsaliti MBASHA na mtoto ni wa mbasha na yuko tayari kwa DNA test:ALIYESEMA HAYA WKT AKITOA USHAHIDI WA KESI YA MBASHA KUBAKA

Lakini unafikiri mtu ambaye ana jiita mtumishi wa Mungu anaweza kukosa busara kiasi hiki? Hivi tofauti ya Ngwajima na wanywa viroba au wavuta bange ni ipi? Ngwajima ana takiwa kuacha huu uhuni..!

 

[IamPrince George]

Mimi ni mkatoliki lakini niweke msimamo wangu kama mwamini, kitendo cha Kadinali Pengo kuyatamka maneno yale ni wazi kuwa ameenda kinyume na makubaliano ya wenzake, alitakiwa aseme tangu mwanzo lakini kuwapa go ahead halafu huku nyuma anaongea vile ni kosa.

Katiba pendekezwa ni kweli ina mapungufu na kama viongozi wa kiroho wanapaswa kuwaelekeza mambo mazuri iki isije kuwa majuto. Kwa hiyo maaskofu walikuwa sahihi na Pengo aliteleza, mbona wanasema msizini na hamsemi kuwa wanatukataza, kwa nyie ni watoto? Si wanajua kuwa mna akili na mnatambua kuwa ni dhambi, msimamo wa MAASIKOFU ni sahihi kabisa

 

[ngomicom]

Si vibay tukipata zote lakini ya akili na kiroho ni muhimu zaidi

 

[Mcharo son]

mahakama ya kadhi itakuja tu kwani islam ni dini ya m'mungu si dini ya binadamu au kabila fulani kama na nyie wakristo mnataka mahakama ruksa kuanzisha

mbona mahakama mnazo huko misikitini kwenu. see attach.

 

[Leak]

Hiyo audio nimeisikiliza ila nimechoka.Vile vichambo vimetolewa na mchungaji? Hatari hii.

nifah me nilifikiri ni Lemutuz kumbe ni Ngwajima

 

[ngomicom]

Niambie kwa jinsi ulivomwelewa Kard. Pengo, amewaagiza waumini na wananchi wapige kura gani? Ndiyo au Hapana?

 

[Jestina]

Gwajima unajaribiwa,kaza kamba mtumishi...:canada:

 

[Candid Scope]

Canon Law (CODE OF CANON LAW) inampa majukumu hayo ndio maana ana influence katika Katika Kanisa. Bila hivyo basi ukardinali usingekuwa na maana yoyote.

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Maboso unaijua Codex of Catholic Canon Law na responsibilities za makardinali?

Nikupe darasa hapa jaribu kutulia na kusoma hiyo sheria ya Codex of Canon Law.

Responsibilities of the cardinals of the Holy Roman Church

The most important duty of a cardinal is to elect the Pope, but the responsibilities of the College of Cardinals have steadily evolved over the centuries. Cardinals are personally selected by the Pope. They give counsel to the Pope, contribute to the governance of the Church and act as papal envoys. Some are officers of the Roman Curia while many serve as bishops of major diocese around the world. Cardinals have been responsible for electing popes since 1059. They remain eligible to vote until age 80 and the number of voting cardinals is limited to 120.

The summary of the role of a cardinal from the Latin Code of Canon Law, 1983
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The cardinals of the Holy Roman Church constitute a special College, whose prerogative it is to elect the Roman pontiff in accordance with the norms of a special law. The cardinals are also available to the Roman pontiff, either acting collegially, when they are summoned together to deal with questions of major importance, or acting individually, that is, in the offices which they hold in assisting the Roman pontiff especially in the daily care of the universal Church.

:nono: The College of Cardinals is divided into three orders:

1. the episcopal order, to which belong those cardinals to whom the pontiff assigns the title of a suburbicarian church (episcopal sees near Rome), and eastern-rite patriarchs who are made members of the College of Cardinals;
2. the presbyteral order; and
3. the diaconal order.
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:nono:Cardinal priests and cardinal deacons are each assigned a title or a deaconry in Rome by the pontiff.

:nono: Eastern patriarchs within the College of Cardinals have their patriarchal see as a title.
:nono: The Cardinal dean has the title of the diocese of Ostia, together with that of any other church to which he already has a title.

:nono: Those to be promoted cardinals are men freely selected by the pontiff, who are at least in the order of the priesthood and are truly outstanding for doctrine, virtue, piety and prudence in practical matters; those who are not already bishops must receive episcopal consecration.

:nono: Cardinals are created by a decree of the pontiff, which in fact is published in the presence of the College of Cardinals. From the moment of publication, they are bound by the obligations and they enjoy these rights defined in the law.

:nono: A person promoted to the dignity of cardinal, whose creation the pontiff announces, but whose name he reserves in pectore (in confidence), is not at that time bound by the obligations nor does he enjoy the rights of a cardinal. When his name is published (made public) by the pontiff, however, he is bound by these obligations and enjoys these rights, but his right of precedence dates from the day of the reservation in pectore.

:nono: The dean presides over the College of Cardinals. When he is unable to do so, the sub-dean takes his place. The dean, or the sub-dean, has no power of governance over the other cardinals, but is considered as first among equals.

:nono:When the office of dean is vacant, those cardinals who have a suburbicarian title, and only those, under the presidency of the sub-dean if he is present, or of the oldest member, elect one of their number to act as dean of the college. They are to submit his name to the pontiff for approval.

:nono: Cardinals assist the Supreme Pastor of the Church in collegial fashion particularly in consistories, in which they are gathered by order of the pontiff and under his presidency. Consistories are either ordinary or extraordinary.

:nono: In an ordinary consistory all cardinals, or at least those who are in Rome, are summoned for consultation on certain grave matters of more frequent occurrence, or for the performance of especially solemn acts.

:nono: All cardinals are summoned to an extraordinary consistory, which takes place when the special needs of the Church and more serious matters suggest it.

:nono: Only an ordinary consistory in which certain solemnities are celebrated can be public, that is when, in addition to the cardinals, prelates, representatives of civil states and other invited persons are admitted.

:nono: Cardinals who head the departments and other permanent sections of the Roman Curia and of Vatican City, who have completed their 75th year, are requested to offer their resignation from office to the pontiff, who will consider all the circumstances and make provision accordingly.

:nono: It belongs to the cardinal dean to ordain the elected pontiff a bishop, if he is not already ordained. If the dean is prevented from doing so, the same right belongs to the sub-dean or, if he is prevented, to the senior cardinal of the episcopal order.

:nono: The senior cardinal deacon announces the name of the newly elected Supreme Pontiff to the people. Acting in place of the pontiff, he also confers the pallium on metropolitan bishops or gives the pallium to their proxies.

:nono: Cardinals have the obligation of co-operating closely with the pontiff. For this reason, cardinals who have any office in the curia and are not diocesan bishops are obliged to reside in Rome. Cardinals who are in charge of a diocese as diocesan bishops are to come to Rome whenever summoned by the pontiff.

:nono: When a cardinal has taken possession of a suburbicarian church or of a titular church in Rome, he is to further the good of the diocese or church by counsel and patronage. However, he has no power of governance over it, and he should not for any reason interfere in matters concerning the administration of its good, or its discipline, or the service of the church.

:nono:A cardinal may be deputed by the pontiff to represent him in some solemn celebration or assembly of persons as a Legatus a latere, that is, as his alter ego; or he may, as a special emissary, be entrusted with a particular pastoral task. A cardinal thus nominated is entitled to deal only with those affairs which have been entrusted to him by the pontiff himself.

:nono: When the Apostolic See is vacant, the College of Cardinals has only that power in the Church which is granted to it by special law.

Hakuna kifungu kinachoeleza au kuelekeza kwamba makardinali wanamajukumu ya kanisa kwa kiwango cha kuwakilisha na kuwa wasemaji katika nchi zao la hasha, ila ni;

• Washauri wa Pope
• Wajumbe wa kanisa katika vikao vya vatican
  
• Wajumbe wa kanisa wanaomchagua Pope
  
• Wajumbe ambao moja kwa moja ni candidates wa kuchauguliwa kuwa papa kunapokuwa vacant.
  

Pengo kadiri ya hieralikia ya kanisa yuko chini sana katika makardinali yeye ni askofu wa jimbo na kuna makardinali wengine waliokabidhiwa kuongoza idara huko Vatikan. Kuna baadhi ya makardinali ambao hukabidhiwa jimbo, parokia nk huko Italia. Soma maelezo hapo juu ya sheria utaelewa.

Hivyo basi Pengo zaidi ya majukumu aliyo nayo katika kuingia kwenye halmashauri ya kumshauri Papa, jukumu alilo nalo Tanzania ni kuongoza Jimbo Kuu la Dar es Salaam kama ilvyo maaskofu wengine wanaoongoza majimbo mbalimbali nchini, na kiutawala wanawajibika moja kwa moja kwa Pope kila askofu, kwa mambo yanayowahusu kiukanda huchagua mwenyekiti wao kila baada ya miaka mitatu na ndiye msemaji kupitia ofisi yao kitaifa inayoratibiwa na Padre katibu mkuu wa Baraza la Maadkofu Tanzania (TEC).

Kuwa mkatoliki haimaanishi kujua mfumo na majukumu mbalimbali ya watumishi wa kanisa. Kujua na kuelimika kuhusu mambo ya kanisa inakubidi uzamie kidogo vitabu si mabishano ya vijiweni kanisa Katoliki haliende kwa mwendo huo ila kisomi yakhe.

😛lane: PAX TECUM 😛lane:​

 

[Leak]

Mimi ni mkatoliki lakini niweke msimamo wangu kama mwamini, kitendo cha Kadinali Pengo kuyatamka maneno yale ni wazi kuwa ameenda kinyume na makubaliano ya wenzake, alitakiwa aseme tangu mwanzo lakini kuwapa go ahead halafu huku nyuma anaongea vile ni kosa.

Katiba pendekezwa ni kweli ina mapungufu na kama viongozi wa kiroho wanapaswa kuwaelekeza mambo mazuri iki isije kuwa majuto. Kwa hiyo maaskofu walikuwa sahihi na Pengo aliteleza, mbona wanasema msizini na hamsemi kuwa wanatukataza, kwa nyie ni watoto? Si wanajua kuwa mna akili na mnatambua kuwa ni dhambi, msimamo wa MAASIKOFU ni sahihi kabisa

Teh Teh.
Kwa hiyo una kubaliana na mhuni Ngwajima kumwambia pengo anavishwa pampasi? Kwa hiyo Mungu wenu huwa anawaelekeza mkitofaitiana basi ni kuporomosheana matusi?