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Hao wamasai sio waelewa wenzio uku serikali ikataka ardhi yake inachukua bila kuleta ubishi..wafidiwe watoke uko .. sasa wao wanajikuta ni Bora kuliko Tanzania kitu ambacho hakiwezekani.
Hao wamasai sio waelewa wenzio uku serikali ikataka ardhi yake inachukua bila kuleta ubishi..wafidiwe watoke uko .. sasa wao wanajikuta ni Bora kuliko Tanzania kitu ambacho hakiwezekani.Hii issue nadhani Lissu ameidiscuss kwa maandiko ya zamani na historia nyingi. Hajatoa ushahidi wa kisasa kuthibitisha hoja zake, jambo ambalo amepuuzia kila mazingira ya sasa hayawezi kuwa ya miaka ile aliyofanya tafiti.
Zipo issues nyingi ni so misleading nimeshangaa hifadhi alizotolea mifano za Amboseli (KE) na Kruger (SA) kwamba zina local communities within kitu ambacho sio kweli. Mathalani Amboseli kama hifadhi haina hao Maasai anaowataja bali wapo kwenye mtambaa wa hifadhi hiyo (ecosystem).
Nadharia za Lissu nyingi ni za historia wakati dunia imekwenda kasi sana.
Aliyetoa hoja za msingi zinazomake ni Lema kwa maana ya unintended consequences iwapo watalii wataflock kwenye hizo hifadhi. Hata hivyo kwa bahati ametoa solution inayomake sense kwa maana kuanzisha kuexclusivity ya huduma.
Nchi hii rasilimali zinatolewa na jamii zote, Masai hawawezi kuwa zaidi ya Jamii zote nchi hii. Sijui kama amefikiri sawa sawa iwapo jamii za migodoni wangesema madini yao pekeyao, wamakonde waseme gesi ni yao hawatoi, etc.
Hao Masai wafidiwe wachape mwendo
Supporter wa JPM.. Kichwa sifuri.. Akili sifuri. Ww una dharau watu wenye matatizo ya hela. Of course mimi sio huyo james wako.. lakini so what hata kama ningekuwa yeye? Kama ana matatizo ya hela WW NDIO NANI WA KUMCHEKA MWANADAMU NA KUMTUKANA MWANADAMU? Unasema eti uko abroad wapi unaona nadanganya.. Ili inisaidie nini? Ww unaona raha kudharau watu? Kwamba eti mimi ni maskini tu.. nina madeni.. Abroad sijakanyaga. Ww ndio inakupa raha kudharau wengine? UTAKUWA MASKINI NA UNA MAISHA YA SHIDA KUPATA MUDA WA KUPOST UJINGA UNAO-POST, KUCHEKA WENYE SHIDA, KUDHARAU WENGINE, KUTUKANA WENGINE. Mimi mambo yangu yanaenda vizuri sana. Na watu Kama Ww mnanipa motivation sana.. kuendelea kufanikiwa.. ili story yangu ifahamike duniani nzima siku moja. ILI MTU KAMA WW ASIPATE NAFASI YA KUNITUKANA KWA MAMBO YA UONGO KABISA. Na ili ni-motivate na kuwa sauti ya watu AMBAO WANADHARAULIWA NA KUBEZWA NA WATU KAMA WW.😄😄😄 uko abroad ya wapi bi. James?😄😄 Mikopo itakuua mke wangu.
Don't judge people 'according to memory' (what you remember about them), but 'according to reality' (what is happening in reality).kwenye madini binafsi sikukubaliana na JPM kwenye baadhi ya mambo lakini TL hakuna lamaana aliloshauri zaidi ya makelele na baadaye nilihisi ana maslahi na Acacia kupitia watu fulani.
Ngoringoro its either Masai waondoke na Ngorongoro ibaki au Masai wabaki na Ngorongoro ipotee. Mwaka 1950 kulikuwa na Masai wangapi Ngorongoro na leo 2022 kuna Masai wangapi Ngorongoro...? Ukubwa wa Ngorongoro ni ule ule au umeongezeka..
Mengi uliyoongea ni sahihi, lakini unafikiria ni kila kabila linaweza kuishi pamoja na wanyama poli, na maisha yao yakaendelea?kama sungura akionekana tu kijijini , watu mnataka kuuana sembuse swala, nyumbu na nyati?!!Wamasai wamejaa nchi nzima na ngo'mbe zao. Yani vurugu mechi. Ila tunaishinao hivyo hivyo. Leo tunacheka kesho tumenuniana. Ila inaonekana wao sehemu moja tu ndo. ......wakiondoka huko ndo itakuwa kama. .labda wote watakufa.
Hakuna mtu asiejua umuhimu wa sekta yautalii katika nchi yetu.
Sawa la pale ni rahisi sana. It's not rocket science. Wanyama watabaki hapo hapo. Itolewe namba ya wamasai watakao baki hapo. Hilo jukumu wapewe wazee wakimasai wenyewe wachaguane nani wakubaki, nani wakuondoka. Na tunawapa mwezi mmoja tu.
Hao wamasai wasitake kutuchanganya vichwa. Sio kwamba labda wao tabaka Lao ni la juu kuliko watanzania wengine. Hii nchi yetu sote. Lazima wote tuwajibike.
Ndio maana niliandika awali Lissu mnaemjua nyie kuhusu uelewa wake wa hayo maeneo sivyo; he is an expert in Ngororo ecosystem...Tundu Lissu ni mwanaharakati, mwanahistoria, na mwanasheria.
..hapo chini ametoa somo na elimu kubwa sana kuhusu kinachoendelea Ngorongoro.
..nakiri kwamba nilikuwa sijui, na presentation ya Lissu imenifumbua macho.
..mnaweza kumsikiliza Tundu Lissu hapo chini akiuzungumzia mgogoro unaoendelea Ngorongoro.
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Kwahio waondoke halafu mujenge hoteli ndio hesabu zenu sio😅???sidhani kama Wamakonde kule Mtwara wangegoma kuondoka kwenye maeneo yao tungekuwa na bomba la gas leo... Kule kanda ya Ziwa watu wangegoma kuondoka kwenye maeneo yao sidhani kama madini yangechimbwa...
Kwani ni Lazima Masai wakae Ngorongoro? uwepo wao unaongeza Simba kuzaliana na nyasi kuota?...
GENERAL INFORMATION:Ndio maana niliandika awali Lissu mnaemjua nyie kuhusu uelewa wake wa hayo maeneo sivyo; he is an expert in Ngororo ecology.
Mie nilikuwa nakuelezea maisha yake kabla ya uwakilishi wake wa sheria migodini, wewe unaniletea video za siasa za wakati Liseu mwanasiasa maarufu CDM; vitu vingine ata kujibu inakuwa shida.
Before his Legal, environmentalist protesting and political career; Lissu was a government employee working as conversationists in Ngororo. His expertise was local history, anthropological factors za Ngororo and legal rights za wakati.
Nimemuona mimi as an expert contributor anaijua Ngorongoro kushinda mnavyodhani.
Maisha yake ya utaalamu yalianzia Ngorongoro ipo siku atawaambia ukweli alikuwa government expert kwenye hayo maeneo kabla ya uanarakati, legal career na siasa.
Ameficha career yake ya hifadhi ya Ngororo as a government employee.GENERAL INFORMATION:
Full Name: Tundu Antiphas Mughwai Lissu
Member Type: Elected Member
Constituent: Singida Mashariki
Political Party: Chama cha Demokrasia na Maendeleo
Office Location: Box 21746, Dar Es Salaam
Office Phone: +255 22 2780859/+255 754 447323/+255 786 572 571
Office E-mail: tlissu@parliament.go.tz
Date of Birth: 20 January 1968
EDUCATION
Mahambe Primary School:
CPEE (1976 - 1982) - Primary School
Galanos Secondary School:
ACSEE (1987 - 1989) - Secondary School
Ilboru Secondary School:
CSEE (1983 - 1986) - Secondary School.
University of Dar Es Salaam:
LLB (1991 - 1994) Bachelor's Degree
University of Warwick, UK:
LLM (1995 - 1996) - Masters Degree
EMPLOYMENT HISTORY
Member of The Parliament of Tanzania:Singida West Constituency (2010 - 2015)
Lawyers' Environmental Action Team (LEAT):Director of Researcher (2003 - 2008)
The World Resources Institute (WRI), USA:Researcher (1999 - 2002)
Lawyers' Environmental Action Team (LEAT) Researcher (1998 - 1999)
D'Souza Chambers:Advocate (1994 - 1997)
Bondeni Secondary School:Teacher (1990 - 1991)
POLITICAL EXPERIENCE
CHADEMA:Director of Law (2004 - To Date)
NCCR-Mageuzi:Member of Parliament Candidate (1995)
Mpuuzi wewekwenye madini binafsi sikukubaliana na JPM kwenye baadhi ya mambo lakini TL hakuna lamaana aliloshauri zaidi ya makelele na baadaye nilihisi ana maslahi na Acacia kupitia watu fulani.
Ngoringoro its either Masai waondoke na Ngorongoro ibaki au Masai wabaki na Ngorongoro ipotee. Mwaka 1950 kulikuwa na Masai wangapi Ngorongoro na leo 2022 kuna Masai wangapi Ngorongoro...? Ukubwa wa Ngorongoro ni ule ule au umeongezeka..
Ameficha career yake ya hifadhi ya Ngororo as a government employee.
Vyoo huwa ni kwa ajili ya wanawake na watoto,wanaume ni porini tu na ni mbolea tosha kwa mimea kutokanana aina ya chakula anachokula.😝tuseme ukweli, kwa wale ambao tumefika ngorongoro, huw akunakuwa na yale maboma yamezunguka nyumba, hivi kati ya yale maboma yamezungushwa, mojawapo ya bomba huwa linakuwa ni la choo? vijumba unavikuta porini ni kijumba kimoja kimoja tu, tunategemea kuwe na nyumba ya kuishi na walau kajijumba ka choo pembeni, lakini unakuta kuan boma moja tu au mawili tu au matatu na yote hayo ndani wanakaa wake za mtu mmoja na watoto. sasa unajiuliza, vyoo wanajenga wapi? au ndo kutembea na jemba. huko machungani wanajisaidiaga wapi? au ndo kusambaza uchafu kama pundamilia tu? ndo mnataka msambaze magonjwa kwenye mbuga huko tukose watalii kwasababu yenu? na sisi hatutaki kuwafanya ninyi kivutio cha utalii, tunawajali kama wanadamu sawa na sisi.
Lissu katokea familia ya kawaida, hivi unajua serikali ya Tanzania watu inao wasomesha kutoka familia za kawaida nje ya nchi especially vipanga wakirudi wanaishia wapi...labda alifanya hiyo kazi, " uzalendo " ukamshinda, akabwaga manyanga.
..mitizamo yake iko tofauti sana na sera za serikali kuhusu masuala ya uhifadhi na haki za wenyeji wanaoishi jirani na hifadhi za wanyama pori.
NB:
..Lissu alimaliza Udsm 1994. Na baada ya hapo akaenda masomoni Uingereza. Mwaka 1995 alikuwa ameshajiunga na Nccr na aligombea ubunge akashindwa. Ndio maana napata mashaka sana kwamba aliwahi kufanya kazi Ngorongoro.
Nyerere aliwashauri Wachagga miaka ya 60" wasambae kuulinda mt knjaro watu hawakuelewa sasa tunaona faidaWamasai wamejaa nchi nzima na ngo'mbe zao. Yani vurugu mechi. Ila tunaishinao hivyo hivyo. Leo tunacheka kesho tumenuniana. Ila inaonekana wao sehemu moja tu ndo. ......wakiondoka huko ndo itakuwa kama. .labda wote watakufa.
Hakuna mtu asiejua umuhimu wa sekta yautalii katika nchi yetu.
Sawa la pale ni rahisi sana. It's not rocket science. Wanyama watabaki hapo hapo. Itolewe namba ya wamasai watakao baki hapo. Hilo jukumu wapewe wazee wakimasai wenyewe wachaguane nani wakubaki, nani wakuondoka. Na tunawapa mwezi mmoja tu.
Hao wamasai wasitake kutuchanganya vichwa. Sio kwamba labda wao tabaka Lao ni la juu kuliko watanzania wengine. Hii nchi yetu sote. Lazima wote tuwajibike.
Hivi unadhani nazungumzia recent history.
Lissu katokea familia ya kawaida, hivi unajua serikali ya Tanzania watu inao wasomesha kutoka familia za kawaida nje ya nchi especially vipanga wanaishia wapi.
If anything you are confirming my suspicions muhimu hapo ni depth ya mwanachama and their involvement hadi kuachiwa kuwa huru.
As yet the burden of proof is upon me; and m I testify by Sunday nitaweka hizo evidence Lissu at one point was NCA government expert ninao ushahidi huo I just have to prove it.
Wewe ndio unayetaka kuishi lala land na kujitoa ukweli for the sake of arguing...naona kama unatupotezea muda wa kufaidika na elimu aliyoitoa Tundu Lissu kuhusu suala la Ngorongoro.
..nadhani unataka kututoa kwenye reli, tuanze kumjadili Lissu binafsi badala ya hoja alizotoa.