Special Thread: Yanayojiri Mgogoro wa Ukraine na Urusi. Nini chanzo na hatma ya mzozo?

I know them too buddy, I don't usually engaging directly kwenye majadiliano, mimi napenda kua msomaji tu. Pale nilikuwa nikimsisitiza ajibu maswali aliyokuwa akiyakwepa kwa kuuliza maswali mengine.

Thanks for you time, have a nice day.
Poa poa Jomba
 
Jibu kile ulicho ulizwa, au umeishiwa hoja ndugu yetu tukusaidie. Wametumia miaka 20, haya mjibuni swali lake la pili kuhusu hiyo Time frame ya Operation ya Russia kama mnayo ambayo mnaitumia kutoa reference kua Russia kashindwa Operation yake.
Na Mimi naongeza wamekaa Afghanistan miaka 20 na walipoondoka TU ,Taliban wakarudi madarakani.
 
Huoni kama unajitekenya then unacheka mwenyewe?

When Russia withdraw jeshi lake Kyiv mlizungumza nini? Hamkusema Russia kashindwa kuiteka Kyiv?

Ok so you are admitting vita ilikuwa bado inaendelea? So you are admitting that kama wasingetoka hivi sasa wangekuwa wanatafta mwaka wa 21 wakipigana na kikosi cha wa Taliban?

Yet you are admitting that, kama ukitoka hujamaliza ulichokusudia that means umeshindwa? If not kwanini walitoka kama hawajamaliza walichokwenda kukifanya Afghanistan?

If Russia today announce a withdrawals ya jeshi lake nchini Ukraine, kwa madai ya kuepusha wanajeshi wa Russia wasiendelee kuuwawa, Can you tell us what that means?

Do you know what even Biden saying when they retreat from Afghanistan?

You tell us they win while themselves saying Afghanistan was a Failure, Hey buddy so who to believe? You or them?

1. How America Failed in Afghanistan

2. US failed in Afghanistan campaign must withdraw forces

3. Coming to terms with Americas undeniable failure in Afghanistan.

So hao wooote wamezungumza uongo, Wewe ndio unazungumza ukweli?

Napenda kujadiliana na watu kwa hoja. But nyie hamna hoja bali ushabiki which are far very far from reality.

Thanks for your time. Let's stop here.
 
Ni dhahiri Marekani mwishowe walishindwa Afghanistan.
Ni dhahiri pia Urusi kuna uwezekano mkubwa itashindwa Ukraine.
 
Ww uta bilingika una fanya ufanyavyo ila ukweli Marekani alishindwa vita maana walienda kuiangusha serikali ya Talban kwa hoja ya kuwa unadhani ugaidi lakini wameondoka wamewaacha haohao wadhamini wa ugaidi wakiwa madarakani.

kwani Talban wangeamuwa kusalimu amri na kutopigana Marekani angekimbia? alikimbia kwa sababu wanajeshi wake walikuwa wanauawa na silaha zao kuharibiwa na walikuwa wanapata hasara.

Haya ngoja tuachane na Afghanistan vipi kuhusu Vietnam ambapo Marekani alipigana zaidi ya miaka 8 akashindwa kuteka hata kijiji akaishia kupata kipigo cha mbwa koko akakimbia bila hata kuaga.
 
Kaka unateseka Bure ...... Huyo jamaaaa ni mgumu Kuelewa na akielewa tu mwepesi kusahau unaanza tena kuelimisha kilekile.
 
Umeipunguza jomba [emoji23] Vietnam nako ni 20 kasoro... Wamepishana na hawa Afghanistan kwa miezi kama mitano tu hivi.
 
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Je ili kuwa PLATINUM Member ni kwa vigezo gani na hiyo tiki ni ya nini?
 
Askari wa Urusi wafariki na kuachwa bila kuzikwa huko Donbas baada ya Daraja kulipuliwa na UKRAINE.Chini ni maoni ya mchangiaji🤔
I wonder how many Russians are killed on this silly attempted crossing. Somebody please show this pics and video to Putin so he will know his boys are losing terribly in Donbas, Ukraine. He really needs to see this one, but I heard that Russian military doesn’t really take home their dead soldiers in Ukraine which means Ukraine will have to kill Russian soldiers and burry them too so they won’t contaminate and pollute lovely Ukraine. This is shameful and sad!!!





 
Amerika ilivamia Afghanistan kulipiza kisasi kwa waliopanga 911 na kuhakikisha shambulizi kama hilo halitokei tena. 20 years later hakuna shambulizi kama hilo limetokea tena na Osama bin Laden na wenzake wameuliwa. Huo ni ushindi mkubwa kwa raia wa amerika, Tanzania na Kenya ambao hawana tena hofu ya kulipuliwa na Al qaeda.
Nakukumbusha kwamba hao unaowatetea walifanya shambulio la kigaidi nchini kwako na Kenya 1998 na kama sio juhudi za Amerika kufanikiwa, wangeendelea kututesa. Chuki zako kwa amerika zisifanye uungane na watu ambao wakikupata popote wanakukata kichwa. Nairobi 1998👇👇

For 20 years amerika ilikua ikiilinda serikali ya Afghanistan, ikitoa mafunzo na kupigana na Taliban sleeper cells, wakijaribu Ku regroup wanapigwa na vitu vizito. Hii ndio sababu Taliban inayotawala haiwezi kujaribu ule ujinga wa 911. Amerika ilijiondoa baada kuona Taliban sio tena tishio kwao.
Kilichoanzisha vita Libya ni maandamano ya Arab Spring ambayo yenyewe yalianza Tunisia na kusambaa Nchi kiarabu. NATO iliingia wakati UN security Council ilipiga kura kuwe na intervention ya kuzuia raia wasiendelee kuuawa na vikosi vya Gaddafi. Kura zilikua 10 walikubali, 5 hawakupiga na 0 walipinga. Russia na China zenye Veto Power waliabstain kura, the whole freaking world was against Gaddafi.

NATO kwa idhini ya UN wakaweka 'No fly Zone' Libya lakini hawakutuma wanajeshi wa ardhini. Kazi ilikua kulepua military assets za Gaddafi ambazo zina wahangaisha wananchi. Na mwishoe Gaddafi akadakwa na rebels akijificha chini ya mtaro na wakamuua. NATO haikua the main party katika vita hivyo kwa hio lawama zako ziko misguided.


Waarabu wenzake kina UAE na Qatar walimgeukia Gaddafi wewe mtanzania unaanzaje kumsapoti. Hivi hujui kwamba yeye ndo alimpa silaha Idi Amin wa Uganda awavamie Kagera. Msipokua makini mtasapoti adui zenu kwa chuki kwa Amerika.
 
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