Special Thread: Yanayojiri Mgogoro wa Ukraine na Urusi. Nini chanzo na hatma ya mzozo?

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View attachment 2135881This legendary Ukrainian fighter jet pilot shot down 10 Russian enemy aircrafts. His nickname is "Ghost of Kyiv".

Mkuu ni muda umepita sasa, kwa dakika chache una lolote la kusema kuhusu huyo "lijendi"

 

[Tsh]

Basi safi,mie napenda tuifanye mijadala hii kama sehemu ya kuelimishana wala isiwe kuchukiana.
Hata hivyo wewe unafahamika kama Pro NATO msataarabu na muungwana sana.

Ni vile humu lazima uwe na upande ktk pande mbili ila ningetamani nifahamike kama mtu asiyependezwa na uamuzi wa Putin bila kuniatach na upro. Ila ni sawa tu kwa maslahi ya mjadala twendeni hivyo hivyo.😃.

 

[EINSTEIN112]

kwa nini zile siraha za msaada za US na EU zimeshindwa kumzuia mrusi kuuchukua mji huu muhimu

,” Zelenskyy said, just as Russia claimed its long-range missiles had destroyed a shipment of Western arms destined for Ukraine’s troops.

 

[MK254]

Viva Russia kwa balance ya ulimwengu

Tulimtegemea sana kwenye balance ya dunia ila ameonyesha alivyo hovyo, kainchi kadogo jirani yake hapo kamemtoza makamasi mpaka ameomba msaada kwa wastaafu na wapiganaji wa kigeni.
Sasa hivi duniani tumeanikwa vibaya mno, hata waarabu na dini yao walikua wanamtegemea Mrusi na ndio maana wengi wenu bado mna matumaini kwa Putin ila ameishiwa pumzi.

 

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Haji huku siku hizi[emoji851][emoji851][emoji851]

 

[Imeloa]

Kule luhansk na Donetsk Ukraine ndio ipasahau kua nchi yake, na wakianza kuleta ***** ***** watapigwa tena watapokwa na majimbo mengine. Msaada pekee kwa Ukraine ni marekani na EU na kama unaona uzuri jamaa wanampotezea kiaina

Russia hana jeshi la kuweza kushinda vita hivi ni propaganda tu hadi mwezi wa nne unaanza.

 

[Muite]

Mkuu Proved ProPutin hawataki kuamini kwamba Russia kachapika Ile mbaya huko ukraine kinyume na malengo na matarajio yake🤔

Ila Bro unateseka sana Moyoni Mwako. Roho inakushuhudia dhahiri jinsi mlivyovuliwa nguo lakini UNASHUPAZA SHINGO. Acha kuubebesha Moyo yasiyohalisi. Achilia huo mzigo otherwise UTAPATA PARALYSIS hivihivi

 

[Imeloa]

Sawa Mmelekani wa Gamboshi

Wewe ni mrussia wa Iguguno.

 

[Final Boss]

Wanaanza kuvurugana huku wadau 😂

Songa nayo...
🇵🇱🇩🇪Poland and Germany quarreled over the supply of tanks to Ukraine.

Warsaw demands that Berlin send tanks as soon as possible, in return for those given to Kiev.

However, the Germans are in no hurry to supply their Leopard to the Poles, since the Bundestag itself does not have enough equipment, Der Spiegel reports.

Not so long ago, Poland handed over to Ukraine about 200 old T-72M1 and T-72M1R tanks.

By the way, many of them were not quite in good condition, which they complained about in the APU.

It is possible that this explains Warsaw's eagerness to give them to Kiev as soon as possible and get new ones from Berlin, so also for free.

 

[Imeloa]

Haaa! Ktk Vita Hasara haiepukiki.
Vifo vya askari ni kawaida na ulipuwaji dhana ni kawaida pia.
Hakuna mahali popote Urusi ilitoa muda wa operation.
Tazama maelfu ya Wapiganaji wamejisalimisha na bandali imetetwaliwa mbali na climea.
Luhansinky na Donenky wanajitenga.
Bandari ya Ok Odesa imefungwa.
Waukraine wamekuwa wakimbizi.
Miundombinu ya Kijeshi imekufa.
Naweza sema walioko krk mapambano ni Mataifa 40 dhidi ya Moscow.
Njaa na mifumko ya bei Ulaya imekidhili bora Africa.
Putin sarafu yake imepanda na Vita inaendelea.

Hivi vita Russia ndiye atakaye poteza, hataweza kuikalia ardhi ya Ukraine kama anavyofikiri. Kuna kinachopangwa kufanywa dhidi yake na ndio itakayommaliza kabisa.

 

[Bome-e]

Mkuu, nliongezea tu DONT TAKE IT TOOOO SERIOUS.

Ukraine leo hii akitangaza ushindi Tsh hawezi rudi nyumbani kwa familia yake kushereka kuwa ameshinda vita kupita JF, na Galip hatakuwa hajapoteza lolote. So tuchukulie simple lets chat.. hahaha

WATANZANIA HATUPO VITANI TUPO JAMII FORUM TUKIWATETA WALIO VITANI.

HAYA TUENDELEE KUWATETA, NIMESOMA SEHEMU PUTIN ALITOA MASHARTI KUHUSU BANDARI NA MOJA YA MASHARTI NI KUONDOLEWA VIKWAZO.

ITAKUWA ANAUMIA KWELI NA VIKWAZO ILA ANAJIZUIA KUPIGA YOWE, BORA APIGE MAPEMA MAANA SIKU LIKIMTOKA LITATOKA KWA SAUTI KUU.

Vikwazo alivyowekewa Russia,vinaziathiri nchi zote duniani,USA ikiwemo!
Wakulima wa US wanalia Kwa kukosa mbolea Toka Russia ambayo ni affordable na walikuwa wanaipata Kwa quantity kubwa!
Halafu kauli ya Urusi imekuja baada ya UN,EU na US wenyeww kulalama kwamba Putin anatumia chakula kama silaha ya vita,ndio akawajibu kuwa kabla ya kumshutumu basi waangalie wamemwekea vikwazo vya aina gani!
So unapoleta habari,ilete ilivyo bila kuipiga msasa!

 

[Webabu]

Mhariri wa New York Times atoa ushauri kwa Ukraine na Zelensky amefahamu.
In an editorial, The New York Times reported that Ukraine's victory in the war with Russia now looks unrealistic and that Ukraine may have to cede its territories.
Raisi Zelensky ametoa rai kuwa arejeshewe askari wake waliojisalimisha Mariupol kwa kubadilishana na askari wa Urusi.Sijui ataishiaje Urusi akikataa wazo hilo kwani wale wa Azovstal ndio ilikuwa uti wa mgongo wa jeshi la Ukraine. Huko kwengine wamebaki kuruta pekee wakisikia mvumo wa kombora la kirusi wanakimbizana majumbani kwao.

 

[Extrovert]

Putin mchonganishi aise😁😁...but not Trump
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Putin na Trump ni wana hawafagilii mambo ya kichoko na lazma atafanya mchongo Trump arudi madarakani😅

 

[Webabu]

Baada ya sarakasi nyingi za Zelensky huko Twitter akiwaaminisha wafuasi wake kuwa Ukraine inashinda mechi zake na Russia, Zelensky ameamua kueleza ukweli sasa kupitia chombo cha habari cha Australia, ABC.

Katika mahojiano, Zelensky amekiri kuwa kwa mambo yalivyo, pamoja na kupokea misaada kedekede ya silaha za gharama na zanavita toka Marekani na nchi za NATO/EU, Ukraine haiwezi kamwe kushinda vita vya Russia nchini Ukraine.

Zelensky amesikitika kuwa Ukraine imeshapoteza marubani wengi mno ambao hawezi kutaja idadi yao hadharani, lakini wengi wao wameuawa wakiwa kwenye ndege zao zilipodunguliwa na majeshi ya Russia. Wengi wao wamekufa walipokuwa wakijaribu kurusha ndege hizo kupeleka madawa, vyakula na maji kwa wapiganaji wa Ukraine waliozingirwa na majeshi ya Russia kwenye kiwanda cha chuma huko Azovstal, Mariupol

Updates: Nimeamua kuambatanisha hapa video ya majadiliano hayo baada ya Pro-NATO kudai hiyo habari iliyoripotiwa na chombo cha habari cha Australia fake.



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Afadhali ameelewa somo.

 

[Tsh]

Vikwazo alivyowekewa Russia,vinaziathiri nchi zote duniani,USA ikiwemo!
Wakulima wa US wanalia Kwa kukosa mbolea Toka Russia ambayo ni affordable na walikuwa wanaipata Kwa quantity kubwa!
Halafu kauli ya Urusi imekuja baada ya UN,EU na US wenyeww kulalama kwamba Putin anatumia chakula kama silaha ya vita,ndio akawajibu kuwa kabla ya kumshutumu basi waangalie wamemwekea vikwazo vya aina gani!
So unapoleta habari,ilete ilivyo bila kuipiga msasa!

Si tulikubaliana tunachukua kile kipande kinachotupendeza? Well mm kimenipendeza hako ka kipande ka kutaka vikwazo vitolewe. Hivyo vipande vingine nikivileta sasa si nitakuwa najishambulia? Au hujui kuwa Putin mm namuombea afeli arudi Urusi?

 

[manning]

Ukraine kupigwa na Urusi si habari, habari ni Ukraine kuipa upinzani Urusi.

Mlokozi.
Tunamsubiri Puttin aache kutumia makombora aje asimame na Z wapigane mshindi apewe ardhi.

Unataka kumuua zele , hujui Putin ni mpiga judo hatari Sasa umpambanishe na msanii Zele 🤣🤣🤣‼️

 

[Final Boss]

Dondoo muhim tu wadau...

Songa nayo...
🇺🇦🇺🇸Congressman Chip Roy said that the Senate should be ashamed of allocating $40 billion to Kiev.

With these words, he spoke on the air of the American TV channel Fox News.

"There is no excuse for this — to give money that we do not have, during rampant inflation in our country!", — said the politician.

Washington, in his opinion, pours gasoline, "at $5 per gallon, into the fire of inflation for hard workers across the country."

The Republican from Texas added that he voted against sending $40 billion to Kiev, believing that internal problems need to be solved.

However, President Biden did not agree with this. Today he signed a law on the allocation of $40 billion to Kiev. 😂

 

[lee Vladimir cleef]

Ha ha ha ni kweli jomba ndio maana nikasema kila mtu kuna point anaielewa kulingana na kile alichonacho kichwani.

Kwa mfano mie na baadhi ya wengine tunaona Issue ya Putin kuwawahi ama kujiingiza mwenyewe kwenye mtego aliokuwa anatengenezewa moja wapo ni katika kuivunja unipolarity na kuiweka dunia kwenye multipolarity.

Na hii imekuwa ikitamkwa mara kwa mara na waziri wa mambo ya nje wa Taifa hilo Ladrov.

Na kwa kiasi kikubwa kafanikiwa how? Kama hivi...
1. Kuondoa Imani ya mataifa mengine dhidi ya hizi International community ambazo of course zimekuwa kama fimbo ya kuwanyoosha mataifa mengine.

2. Kawavua nguo mataifa haya ni kudhihilisha yaliyo vifuani mwao hasa kwenye swala la white supremacist. Hawa jamaa ni wabaguzi mno, migogoro mingine inayoendelea duniani wameifumbia macho ila kona ni Ukraine as if pale ndio kuna watu tu kwingine kuna mbuzi na bata.

3. Kuna issue zingine kama usemavyo ngumu kuzielewa mpaka zifanyike, mfano ISSUE ya RUBLE, Nani aliwazs hata kwa bahati mbaya kua Putin na team yake waliwaza kuibomoa dollar 😂 hawapo.

Nani aliwaza hiyo Currency ya Ruble itapewa nguvu na hao hao wanaojikuta viongozi wa dunia kwa kuiongezea demand sokoni? Kupitia basic needs kama nishati?

4. Kawapa Confidence mataifa mengine kua yanaweza kujitegemea na kuishi nje ya Unipolarity, kuishi nje ya WESTERN HEGEMONY. mfano wa hili angalia mataifa yalioanza kumvimbia US baada ya huu mgogoro 🤣

5. Hata US anajua, kwa kunukuu kauli za Biden, kua dunia inaenda kupata New World Order, akiwasisitiza wakurugenzi aliokuwa anazungumza nao kua they should take a lead... Hii inaleta tafsiri ipi... Ni ile ya mapigano kati ya Old World (Westerers) na New World (Easterners).

Na hapa ninaweza sema kua lengo la Westerners (kutokana na kile nachokiona nje, hapa nisinukuliwe as if ndio malengo ambayo yameandikwa kwenye nyaraka zao) lilikuwa lile ambalo limefail toka awali, mwanzo wa hii OP.

Wanajua hawawezi kupigana directly na Russia. Shida yao kwao ni Putin... Target yao kubwa ilikuwa kuuharibu uchumi wa Russia, ile kufumba na kufumbua kuzua migogoro ya ndani kwa ndani, wananchi wapate hasira waingie barabarani kumpindua Rais wao.

Hii irejee kwenye kauli zao hao viongozi kiaso cha dementia Joe alifikia hatua ya kuzungumza wazi kua PUTIN inabidi aondolewe madarakani. Na hilo pia la kutaka kufanya mapinduzi kupitia ubomoaji wa uchumi PUTIN alilisema mwenywe na akidai westerners wameshindwa katika hilo... 🤗

Na mengineyo zaidi commets isiwe ndefu ikakerrrra...

Tuko pamoja jemedari 👊


Hapo ndipo utaona power ya Uzalendo dadeki... Inabidi tuwape pongezi pia warusi wote (hapa nalenga Raia sio Sie ma Pro) kwa utulivu waliouonesha.

Nahisi hili ni jambo kubwa ambalo tunapaswa tulione pia... Wananchi wa Russia kipindi kama hiki wamejionesha wako pamoja than before, indicator ya kuthibitisha hii kauli angalia kwenye Approval rate ya Putin kabla na baada ya Special OP.

Trust juu yake imeongezeka, pembeni anazungukwa na team makini so mipango nayo yaja imenyooka. Kila kitu bam bam 🤣🤣🤣

Mwisho nimesahau, kuna Post zile za mwanzo kuna hoja kama maswali hivi uliyatoa jana nilikuwa na usingizi nikayapitia juu juu tu😂... Ukipata mda anzisha ule uzi unaosema af tutajadiliana huko taratibu moja baada ya lingine... Usisahau kututag tu.

Da Pro Russia Kuna kitu nimejifunza.
Kwa mijadala kama hii,kwa nondo hizi mnazozitoa,aisee Kuna jambo la kitabiabama sijui niseme kisaikolojia nimejifunza .
Sijui kama ntaeleza vizuri.

Kumbe mtu kuamua kuchagua ama. Kujikuta uko upande Gani Ni suala la kitabia na kimaumbile zaidi.

Kwa jinsi ulivyo hangia hapa,kwa kuchangia ama kujibu hoja ya mdau najinsi Pro Russia wengi wanavyochangia na jinsi Pro USA wengi wanavyochangia nimegundua kwamba.

USA na west ni nchi zenye majivuno,dharau,kiburi,jeuri,matumiazi ya nguvu na mengineyo.
Hivyo hata Mashabiki wake wengi wanapenda tabia hizo.
Ndo mana utaona USA hata maamuzi yake mengi ni kama nilivoorodhesha.
Kupenda aonekane ana nguvu ama za kijeshi na kiuchumi,maamuzi yake mengi ni jeshi ama vikwazo,yeye mazungumzo kwake hua ni kidogo sana,ukimshinda kwa hoja jiandae kwa kipigo.

Njoo upande wa Urusi hata china na wenzao.wao ni hoja zaidi,kutokupoenda kutumia nguvu wala vikwazo,kupenda maridhiano na mijadala.
Angalia mgogoro huu,Urusi alianza kuisihi mda mrefu mno USA isizidi kuitanua NATO kuelekea kwake USA ikawa mbishi ,kiburi na dharau.
Mizozo mingi Urusi na china na wenzake wametaka.kuimaliza kwa mazungumzo.

Nataka kusema nini Sasa.
Kumbe mtu anajikuta Yuko kundi au upande Fulani kutokana na tabia za Upande huo kumvutia kulingana na tabia zake.

West - nguvu,ubabe,majivuno,kiburi,dharau,kujiona wanajua Kila kitu.

East - heshima,usikivu,majadiliano,upole,uungwana,kumshirikisha,ubabe,nguvu.

 

[Bome-e]

Si tulikubaliana tunachukua kile kipande kinachotupendeza? Well mm kimenipendeza hako ka kipande ka kutaka vikwazo vitolewe. Hivyo vipande vingine nikivileta sasa si nitakuwa najishambulia? Au hujui kuwa Putin mm namuombea afeli arudi Urusi?

😀😀,basi sawa!Ila lazima tuweke kumbukumbu sawa hasa pale penye harufu ya kupindishapindisha!

 

[Galip Veryl]

Au hujui kuwa Putin mm namuombea afeli arudi Urusi?

Ongeza maombi mzee baba, wakupe maji na mafuta ya upako hapo Church vitaeza kusaidia 😂😂😂

Then, Ufunge 40 ukeshe ukisali labda unaweza kukurupuka usingizin kwanza ushuhudie namna Anavyorudi URuSi...